Could be system permissions for reading the microphone. Try going to the Security panel and enable Microphone access for Pd.
Normally, it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't, maybe due to running different versions of Pd on the same system? I'm not sure off the top of my head.
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 16:36:13 -0400 From: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error Message-ID: <488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
When I switch on DSP using Pd-0.51 (stable build) on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, I get the following error: error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
Best,
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
"it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't"
Recently i had this problem with my fork (after reseted all the authorizations on my computer from the terminal). To make it ask again i had to change the info.plist and the entitlement for code signing < https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/d9a248344af32e19b8f26ec0b227... >.
Note that AFAIK even if the microphone is not authorized, the DSP should work (with silence instead).
----- Mail d'origine ----- De: Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com À: Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com Cc: Pd-List pd-list@lists.iem.at Envoyé: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 12:28:37 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Could be system permissions for reading the microphone. Try going to the Security panel and enable Microphone access for Pd.
Normally, it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't, maybe due to running different versions of Pd on the same system? I'm not sure off the top of my head.
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 16:36:13 -0400 From: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error Message-ID: <488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
When I switch on DSP using Pd-0.51 (stable build) on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, I get the following error: error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
Best,
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
You can also reset Microphone permissions system-wide, then (re)start Pd. In Terminal run:
tccutil reset Microphone
That should trigger the dialog, although it will also reappear for other programs as well.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Nicolas Danet nicolas.danet@free.fr wrote:
"it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't"
Recently i had this problem with my fork (after reseted all the authorizations on my computer from the terminal). To make it ask again i had to change the info.plist and the entitlement for code signing < https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/d9a248344af32e19b8f26ec0b227... >.
Note that AFAIK even if the microphone is not authorized, the DSP should work (with silence instead).
----- Mail d'origine ----- De: Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com À: Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com Cc: Pd-List pd-list@lists.iem.at Envoyé: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 12:28:37 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Could be system permissions for reading the microphone. Try going to the Security panel and enable Microphone access for Pd.
Normally, it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't, maybe due to running different versions of Pd on the same system? I'm not sure off the top of my head.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 16:36:13 -0400 From: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error Message-ID: <488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
When I switch on DSP using Pd-0.51 (stable build) on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, I get the following error: error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
Best,
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
This is already a PR which updates the entitlements for a related problem:
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1145 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1145
Miller / IOhannes, I'm thinking of merging this into the develop branch for Pd 0.51-3 as it would help solve this "sometimes the security dialog shows sometimes not" issue on macSO 10.15+. It's another one of those little paper cuts...
On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
You can also reset Microphone permissions system-wide, then (re)start Pd. In Terminal run:
tccutil reset MicrophoneThat should trigger the dialog, although it will also reappear for other programs as well.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Nicolas Danet <nicolas.danet@free.fr mailto:nicolas.danet@free.fr> wrote:
"it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't"
Recently i had this problem with my fork (after reseted all the authorizations on my computer from the terminal). To make it ask again i had to change the info.plist and the entitlement for code signing < https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/d9a248344af32e19b8f26ec0b227... https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/d9a248344af32e19b8f26ec0b227764012514d3b >.
Note that AFAIK even if the microphone is not authorized, the DSP should work (with silence instead).
----- Mail d'origine ----- De: Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> À: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Envoyé: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 12:28:37 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Could be system permissions for reading the microphone. Try going to the Security panel and enable Microphone access for Pd.
Normally, it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't, maybe due to running different versions of Pd on the same system? I'm not sure off the top of my head.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 16:36:13 -0400 From: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com <mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error Message-ID: <488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com <mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
When I switch on DSP using Pd-0.51 (stable build) on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, I get the following error: error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
Best,
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/ http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/ http://robotcowboy.com/>
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Yes, do please (including mergine pull 1145 I suppose) and I'll go on and grab it all - it looks lke it's much more likely to fix problems than to create any new ones.
thanks M
On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 01:31:34PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
This is already a PR which updates the entitlements for a related problem:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1145... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1145... >
Miller / IOhannes, I'm thinking of merging this into the develop branch for Pd 0.51-3 as it would help solve this "sometimes the security dialog shows sometimes not" issue on macSO 10.15+. It's another one of those little paper cuts...
On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
You can also reset Microphone permissions system-wide, then (re)start Pd. In Terminal run:
tccutil reset MicrophoneThat should trigger the dialog, although it will also reappear for other programs as well.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Nicolas Danet <nicolas.danet@free.fr mailto:nicolas.danet@free.fr> wrote:
"it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't"
Recently i had this problem with my fork (after reseted all the authorizations on my computer from the terminal). To make it ask again i had to change the info.plist and the entitlement for code signing < https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/... > >.
Note that AFAIK even if the microphone is not authorized, the DSP should work (with silence instead).
----- Mail d'origine ----- De: Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> ??: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Envoy??: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 12:28:37 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Could be system permissions for reading the microphone. Try going to the Security panel and enable Microphone access for Pd.
Normally, it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't, maybe due to running different versions of Pd on the same system? I'm not sure off the top of my head.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 16:36:13 -0400 From: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com <mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error Message-ID: <488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com <mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
When I switch on DSP using Pd-0.51 (stable build) on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, I get the following error: error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
Best,
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wA... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wA... >> danomatika.com <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8e... > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8e... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8e... >> robotcowboy.com <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8... > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8... >>
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Ok, merged into the develop branch.
In looking through the Apple entitlements docs, there may be a new key to allow sending.recieving multicast, but that's not something until macOS 11+. I left it out for now as it's still a developer key and not finalized yet.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
Yes, do please (including mergine pull 1145 I suppose) and I'll go on and grab it all - it looks lke it's much more likely to fix problems than to create any new ones.
thanks M
On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 01:31:34PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
This is already a PR which updates the entitlements for a related problem:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1145... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1145... >
Miller / IOhannes, I'm thinking of merging this into the develop branch for Pd 0.51-3 as it would help solve this "sometimes the security dialog shows sometimes not" issue on macSO 10.15+. It's another one of those little paper cuts...
On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
You can also reset Microphone permissions system-wide, then (re)start Pd. In Terminal run:
tccutil reset Microphone
That should trigger the dialog, although it will also reappear for other programs as well.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Nicolas Danet <nicolas.danet@free.fr mailto:nicolas.danet@free.fr> wrote:
"it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't"
Recently i had this problem with my fork (after reseted all the authorizations on my computer from the terminal). To make it ask again i had to change the info.plist and the entitlement for code signing < https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/Spaghettis/Spaghettis/commit/... > >.
Note that AFAIK even if the microphone is not authorized, the DSP should work (with silence instead).
----- Mail d'origine ----- De: Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> ??: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Envoy??: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 12:28:37 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Could be system permissions for reading the microphone. Try going to the Security panel and enable Microphone access for Pd.
Normally, it should show the request dialog automatically, but sometimes it doesn't, maybe due to running different versions of Pd on the same system? I'm not sure off the top of my head.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 16:36:13 -0400 From: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com <mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: [PD] error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error Message-ID: <488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com <mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com mailto:488FA85A-79FB-4577-881A-852EB7C61045@gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
When I switch on DSP using Pd-0.51 (stable build) on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, I get the following error: error opening audio: Internal PortAudio error
Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
Best,
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wA... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wA... >> danomatika.com <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8e... > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8e... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8e... >> robotcowboy.com <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8... > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8... >>
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wA... > danomatika.com <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8e... > robotcowboy.com <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!SGmw-wApeP6s8... >
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(moving the previous email back to this thread from the Pd-0.51-test5 release thread)
I was also hoping that setting the security entitlements explicitly would help.
Ricky, then we need more info:
- What's the machine?
- What audio devices do you have?
- Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
- Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy tab for the Microphone?
- Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and restarting Pd?
I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
Also, can yon run the pd core on the command line to see any prints from Portaudio:
- right click on the Pd-###.app and choose Show package contents
- navigate to Contents/Resources/bin
- double click pd
This will start the core with a Terminal window.
On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:03 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, merged into the develop branch.
In looking through the Apple entitlements docs, there may be a new key to allow sending.recieving multicast, but that's not something until macOS 11+. I left it out for now as it's still a developer key and not finalized yet.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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