Is anyone using Mac Mail having issues with MIME digests from the pd-list?
Occasionally, a digest comes in garbled and unreadable for me. I switch to plain text but quickly missed the attachment handling in the html/MIME messages.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Not using Mail.app (any more), but maybe worth noting that you are breaking the threads every time you respond on a topic from within the digest. It makes it unnecessarily difficult for someone to browse through the web archive of the list. What's a compelling reason to use the digest mode anyway?
On 2016년 03월 28일 07:31, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Is anyone using Mac Mail having issues with MIME digests from the pd-list?
Occasionally, a digest comes in garbled and unreadable for me. I switch to plain text but quickly missed the attachment handling in the html/MIME messages.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Oh I know. I try not to by copying/pasting the subject line but sometimes I forget. I prefer digests because I don’t want a flood of messages … aka the point of digests.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Max abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
Not using Mail.app (any more), but maybe worth noting that you are breaking the threads every time you respond on a topic from within the digest. It makes it unnecessarily difficult for someone to browse through the web archive of the list. What's a compelling reason to use the digest mode anyway?
On 2016년 03월 28일 07:31, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Is anyone using Mac Mail having issues with MIME digests from the pd-list?
Occasionally, a digest comes in garbled and unreadable for me. I switch to plain text but quickly missed the attachment handling in the html/MIME messages.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Also, the behavior of the digests in Mail is inconsistent. As for what reason? I don’t know. Usually the content is displayed together in 1 mail. Sometimes it’s a single mail but each messages is shown as a separate sub messages like an attachment. This is the best as I can easily reply to a specific message. The third form is the aforementioned garbled text. I’ll send a sample along when I get one.
I’m askign to see if it’s something other people are seeing or just me. Also, maybe there is a Mailman configuration that could help?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Oh I know. I try not to by copying/pasting the subject line but sometimes I forget. I prefer digests because I don’t want a flood of messages … aka the point of digests.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Max <abonnements@revolwear.com mailto:abonnements@revolwear.com> wrote:
Not using Mail.app (any more), but maybe worth noting that you are breaking the threads every time you respond on a topic from within the digest. It makes it unnecessarily difficult for someone to browse through the web archive of the list. What's a compelling reason to use the digest mode anyway?
On 2016년 03월 28일 07:31, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Is anyone using Mac Mail having issues with MIME digests from the pd-list?
Occasionally, a digest comes in garbled and unreadable for me. I switch to plain text but quickly missed the attachment handling in the html/MIME messages.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/>
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Boom. Latest digest is “garbled”. Here’s a screenshot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/danomatika/26052866946/in/datetaken-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/danomatika/26052866946/in/datetaken-public/
Looks like it’s displaying the message header info and a few of the messages as attachments, but not all.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Also, the behavior of the digests in Mail is inconsistent. As for what reason? I don’t know. Usually the content is displayed together in 1 mail. Sometimes it’s a single mail but each messages is shown as a separate sub messages like an attachment. This is the best as I can easily reply to a specific message. The third form is the aforementioned garbled text. I’ll send a sample along when I get one.
I’m askign to see if it’s something other people are seeing or just me. Also, maybe there is a Mailman configuration that could help?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh I know. I try not to by copying/pasting the subject line but sometimes I forget. I prefer digests because I don’t want a flood of messages … aka the point of digests.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Max <abonnements@revolwear.com mailto:abonnements@revolwear.com> wrote:
Not using Mail.app (any more), but maybe worth noting that you are breaking the threads every time you respond on a topic from within the digest. It makes it unnecessarily difficult for someone to browse through the web archive of the list. What's a compelling reason to use the digest mode anyway?
On 2016년 03월 28일 07:31, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Is anyone using Mac Mail having issues with MIME digests from the pd-list?
Occasionally, a digest comes in garbled and unreadable for me. I switch to plain text but quickly missed the attachment handling in the html/MIME messages.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/>
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
What about using a separate mail account for the list (you already have two domain names in your footer) and then making a folder in your mail.app where a filter automatically moves the [PD] messages into? IMHO much easier and cleaner than using the digest. Set the folder to threaded view in mail.app and it's really nice to navigate to every single message and completely separated from your personal mail.
On 2016년 03월 28일 07:55, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Oh I know. I try not to by copying/pasting the subject line but sometimes I forget. I prefer digests because I don’t want a flood of messages … aka the point of digests.
No offense, but I’m asking the list to see if Mailman is misconfigured or if there’s a setting I’m missing and not for suggestions on digest alternatives. I prefer to host as *few* websites and email address anyway.
Again, the digests work fine 90% of the time. The other 10% end up being hard to read for Mail.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Mar 28, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Max abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
What about using a separate mail account for the list (you already have two domain names in your footer) and then making a folder in your mail.app where a filter automatically moves the [PD] messages into? IMHO much easier and cleaner than using the digest. Set the folder to threaded view in mail.app and it's really nice to navigate to every single message and completely separated from your personal mail.
On 2016년 03월 28일 07:55, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Oh I know. I try not to by copying/pasting the subject line but sometimes I forget. I prefer digests because I don’t want a flood of messages … aka the point of digests.
I think I might have found the issue: something to do with the Mac Mail.app Junk filter stripping MIME info -> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/629117?db=5 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/629117?db=5
Turning it off *may* solve the digest attachments getting screwed up. I’ll wait and see :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On 2016-03-29 05:15, Dan Wilcox wrote:
No offense, but I’m asking the list to see if Mailman is misconfigured or if there’s a setting I’m missing and not for suggestions on digest alternatives. I prefer to host as *few* websites and email address anyway.
Again, the digests work fine 90% of the time. The other 10% end up being hard to read for Mail.
yes it's weird. probably it's some weirdo mime-within-mime wrapping issue, that happens only if one of the digestsed emails happens to contain some specific foo.
personally, i agree with max that digest delivery is probably not for power-users of the list (such as yourself), and that the reasons for susbribing to the digests should probably be best resolved otherwise (e.g. if the reason is to not be drowned in the flood of Pd-list mails, a better solution is to filter them into a separate mail folder)
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On 2016-03-29 05:12, Max wrote:
What about using a separate mail account for the list (you already have two domain names in your footer) and then making a folder in your mail.app where a filter automatically moves the [PD] messages into?
why would you need a special account for that? i just filter all the emails that have a List-ID header that matches "<pd-list.lists.iem.at>" into a special folder. filtering is done on the server-side, so i have all the Pd-list emails in a separate folder, regardless whether i read them with my laptop, my desktop machine at work, some webmailer or a mobile device.
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On 2016년 03월 29일 15:55, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2016-03-29 05:12, Max wrote:
What about using a separate mail account for the list (you already have two domain names in your footer) and then making a folder in your mail.app where a filter automatically moves the [PD] messages into?
why would you need a special account for that? i just filter all the emails that have a List-ID header that matches "<pd-list.lists.iem.at>" into a special folder. filtering is done on the server-side, so i have all the Pd-list emails in a separate folder, regardless whether i read them with my laptop, my desktop machine at work, some webmailer or a mobile device.
because he is using gmail...
I agree with you, there are many good solutions and yours is much better than the one I suggested, mine is just what I happen to do and it works for me so well that I haven't bothered setting up your perfect solution.
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