i just installed pd-extended in ubuntu studio, and played around with the jack settings so as to avoid A/D/A errors..and it seemed to be working ok.
but then all of a sudden, after 10 or 15 minutes, pd will just freeze. this happened about 5 or 6 times today, so it wasn't a one off.
what's more, after it freezes, if i force pd to quit, and try to open it again, the pd console comes up, but all the menus are blank and nothing works, so i have to restart the entire computer to make pd work again.
the pd console is giving me SIMD messages, which i never saw before on os X... could that be somehow related to what is happening?
Which version? I just installed Ubuntu Studio, and have played with
Pd only a bit so far. I definitely haven't seen anything like that.
If the whole thing is freezing, then it's very unlikely to Pd's
fault, since the OS will prevent programs that kind of access. Much
more likely, there is a hardware or driver problem that Pd might be
triggering. Perhaps a sound card driver?
The SIMD messages are from some zexy objects, and have been removed.
.hc
On Jun 4, 2007, at 11:21 PM, hard off wrote:
i just installed pd-extended in ubuntu studio, and played around
with the jack settings so as to avoid A/D/A errors..and it seemed
to be working ok.but then all of a sudden, after 10 or 15 minutes, pd will just
freeze. this happened about 5 or 6 times today, so it wasn't a one
off.what's more, after it freezes, if i force pd to quit, and try to
open it again, the pd console comes up, but all the menus are blank
and nothing works, so i have to restart the entire computer to make
pd work again.the pd console is giving me SIMD messages, which i never saw before
on os X... could that be somehow related to what is happening?
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Which version? I just installed Ubuntu Studio, and have played with Pd only a bit so far. I definitely haven't seen anything like that. If the whole thing is freezing, then it's very unlikely to Pd's fault, since the OS will prevent programs that kind of access.
Not true... I got sudden freezes (presumably kernel panics, but could not see any error messages) while just trying out GEM's DV camera support code transplanted into GF. I wasn't in suid root not root login, just plain user. That was in 2006 with some distro dated >= 2004. This is just an anecdote, but this isn't something so unlikely, because it was a usual kernel of a usual distro.
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On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 07:51:12PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Which version? I just installed Ubuntu Studio, and have played with Pd only a bit so far. I definitely haven't seen anything like that. If the whole thing is freezing, then it's very unlikely to Pd's fault, since the OS will prevent programs that kind of access.
Not true... I got sudden freezes (presumably kernel panics, but could not see any error messages) while just trying out GEM's DV camera support code transplanted into GF. I wasn't in suid root not root login, just plain user. That was in 2006 with some distro dated >= 2004. This is just an anecdote, but this isn't something so unlikely, because it was a usual kernel of a usual distro.
If you've ever heard kernel hackers discussing the deeper darker parts of the Linux Kernel this would not suprise you! Here be dragons.
(Our only consolation is that it's slightly less likely to destroy everything you love than those other popular operating systems).
Best,
Chris.
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
If you've ever heard kernel hackers discussing the deeper darker parts of the Linux Kernel this would not suprise you! Here be dragons. (Our only consolation is that it's slightly less likely to destroy everything you love than those other popular operating systems).
Hehe, well, I've had two completely unusable partitions that really needed a reformat. Both were formatted in Reiser3, but then, one crashed while the CPU boiled itself, and then the other... I don't know what the shop did when they repaired my laptop, but after they changed the motherboard I had to reformat.
Backups, man, backups.
I'm ripe for a backup.
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:13:39AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Backups, man, backups.
I'm ripe for a backup.
Yeah, tell me about it! All my precious data is currently on a semi broken laptop which doesn't work unless I stand it on it's end, and spontaneously reboots every so often.
rdiff-backup is your friend (and it's apt-get installable). It lets you forget all about backups until you actually need to recover something.
Chris.
On Jul 25, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Which version? I just installed Ubuntu Studio, and have played
with Pd only a bit so far. I definitely haven't seen anything
like that. If the whole thing is freezing, then it's very
unlikely to Pd's fault, since the OS will prevent programs that
kind of access.Not true... I got sudden freezes (presumably kernel panics, but
could not see any error messages) while just trying out GEM's DV
camera support code transplanted into GF. I wasn't in suid root not
root login, just plain user. That was in 2006 with some distro
dated >= 2004. This is just an anecdote, but this isn't something
so unlikely, because it was a usual kernel of a usual distro.
In any decent operating system, the programs are prevented from
accessing parts that would cause deadlocks, kernel panics, etc. Pd's
code is not causing these problems. Pd uses code, for example the DV/
firewire driver, which then causes the kernel panic.
.hc
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
In any decent operating system, the programs are prevented from accessing parts that would cause deadlocks, kernel panics, etc.
So far, operating systems are that much decent...
Pd's code is not causing these problems. Pd uses code, for example the DV/firewire driver, which then causes the kernel panic.
And then the user thinks that it's a problem with pd, because it was triggered by pd.
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
In any decent operating system, the programs are prevented from accessing parts that would cause deadlocks, kernel panics, etc.
So far, operating systems are that much decent...
Man. I meant to write: So far, operating systems are *not* that much decent...
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