I think the whole point is that we need to terminate this thread now. I don't want my students to find a bunch of purile mysoginistic nonsense, nor do I want them to find that we're spending all our time debating such a thing. This is my final word: ENOUGH! Now can we talk about something interesting, like graphical data structures? Ed
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Violence as a response to people with different values- was this comic drawn by a man? -Chuckk
On 10/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans@eds.org> wrote: Funny, I think that exact comic came up earlier in this never-ending
thread. Very apropos...
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This sums it up for me...
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On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Ed Kelly wrote:
I think the whole point is that we need to terminate this thread now. I don't want my students to find a bunch of purile mysoginistic
nonsense, nor do I want them to find that we're spending all our
time debating such a thing. This is my final word: ENOUGH! Now can we talk about something interesting, like graphical data
structures? EdLone Shark "Aviation" out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.myspace.com/sharktracks
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comic drawn by a man? -ChuckkOn 10/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans@eds.org> wrote:
Funny, I think that exact comic came up earlier in this never-ending thread. Very apropos...
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That's a good thing to talk about, graphical data structures. I
was looking for a tutorial on this last week, Some one in my class
had built an additive synthesizer that could be manipulated
graphically. He had figured this out from a Pd online tutorial but I
could not find such a tutorial on the web. Any one know of such a
tutorial Seems to me that this and arrays is what sets Pd apart from
MaxMSP.
Ede
On 28-Oct-07, at 12:57 PM, Ed Kelly wrote:
I think the whole point is that we need to terminate this thread now. I don't want my students to find a bunch of purile mysoginistic
nonsense, nor do I want them to find that we're spending all our
time debating such a thing. This is my final word: ENOUGH! Now can we talk about something interesting, like graphical data
structures? EdLone Shark "Aviation" out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.myspace.com/sharktracks
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Violence as a response to people with different values- was this
comic drawn by a man? -ChuckkOn 10/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans@eds.org> wrote: Funny, I think that exact comic came up earlier in this never-ending thread. Very apropos...
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I don't know about arrays, but graphical data structures definitely set Pd apart from Max, Csound, SuperCollider, Reaktor, Reason, etc. etc. Unfortunately I don't know a good tutorial; graphical data structures take a minute to learn and a lifetime to master. The html manual has most of the basics, although some important features were added recently to make them far better. You can put the -x flag in [drawpolygon], [drawcurve], [filledpolygon], and [filledcurve] to prevent the resulting object from being selected in edit mode. Because of this, in my sequencer, I can now move notes without selecting barlines. A nice feature would be the same -x flag for [drawnumber]...
I agree that sexism is not a good thing to talk about here; but it's one of the hardest things for people not to talk about, eh?
-Chuckk
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That's a good thing to talk about, graphical data structures. I was looking for a tutorial on this last week, Some one in my class had built an additive synthesizer that could be manipulated graphically. He had figured this out from a Pd online tutorial but I could not find such a tutorial on the web. Any one know of such a tutorial Seems to me that this and arrays is what sets Pd apart from MaxMSP. Ede
On 28-Oct-07, at 12:57 PM, Ed Kelly wrote:
I think the whole point is that we need to terminate this thread now. I don't want my students to find a bunch of purile mysoginistic nonsense, nor do I want them to find that we're spending all our time debating such a thing. This is my final word: ENOUGH! Now can we talk about something interesting, like graphical data structures? Ed
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On 10/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans@eds.org> wrote: Funny, I think that exact comic came up earlier in this never-ending thread. Very apropos...
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