Looks like you could set the tk scaling in a .wishrc file: http://wiki.tcl.tk/8484 (Press Show Discussion)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:08 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Csaba Láng <langcsaba@gmail.com mailto:langcsaba@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PD] Menu fonts much too small on 4k screen Date: April 10, 2016 at 6:13:59 AM MDT To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
ctrl+T is a good option to adjust the font size of the objects to your needs. About the menu, no idea yet.
Best:
Popesz
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Martin Dupras <martindupras@gmail.com mailto:martindupras@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
I just acquired a new laptop with a 4K (3840x2160) screen, and am running Fedora Linux with PlanetCCRMA on it.
Everything works fine, pretty much, but everything in PD is just too small. The menus are difficult to read. Objects are also so small that it makes it difficult to hone in on the outlets of objects.
Is there some setting that can set at launch to make those things bigger?
Many thanks!
- martin
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Thanks Dan,
I understand the theory, but I have to confess that I don't understand the information in the link. COuld you elaborate on how one would use this information to increase the font size? I must confess that I have zero experience programming tcl or tk.
On 11 April 2016 at 08:41, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like you could set the tk scaling in a .wishrc file: http://wiki.tcl.tk/8484 (Press Show Discussion)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:08 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Menu fonts much too small on 4k screen Date: April 10, 2016 at 6:13:59 AM MDT To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at
ctrl+T is a good option to adjust the font size of the objects to your needs. About the menu, no idea yet.
Best:
Popesz
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I just acquired a new laptop with a 4K (3840x2160) screen, and am running Fedora Linux with PlanetCCRMA on it.
Everything works fine, pretty much, but everything in PD is just too small. The menus are difficult to read. Objects are also so small that it makes it difficult to hone in on the outlets of objects.
Is there some setting that can set at launch to make those things bigger?
Many thanks!
- martin
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From that link, it looks like you can add settings/small scripts inside the ~/.wishrc and/or ~/.tclkitrc files in your home folder. I assume setting the dpi there will affect tcl/tk apps like pd…
The relevant info that caught my attention is:
MGS - The tk scaling value should be set to its correct value as early as possible. I do this in my ~/.wishrc file as follows: tk scaling -displayof . [expr {101.6 / 72.0}] I know my monitor is 101.6 DPI by measuring with a ruler and dividing into the screen resolution.
Seems like if you know your screen’s dpi, you can manually try setting the scaling amount you will need. At least worth a try.
I’m only assuming all of this by quickly doing a google search and finding that page. it may or may not work and is indeed an issue with tk’s implementation on your OS. I’m running Pd vanilla on a High PDI screen on OSX but Apple has added automatic app screen scaling in OSX.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Apr 17, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Dan,
I understand the theory, but I have to confess that I don't understand the information in the link. COuld you elaborate on how one would use this information to increase the font size? I must confess that I have zero experience programming tcl or tk.
- martin
On 11 April 2016 at 08:41, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like you could set the tk scaling in a .wishrc file: http://wiki.tcl.tk/8484 (Press Show Discussion)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:08 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Menu fonts much too small on 4k screen Date: April 10, 2016 at 6:13:59 AM MDT To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at
ctrl+T is a good option to adjust the font size of the objects to your needs. About the menu, no idea yet.
Best:
Popesz
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I just acquired a new laptop with a 4K (3840x2160) screen, and am running Fedora Linux with PlanetCCRMA on it.
Everything works fine, pretty much, but everything in PD is just too small. The menus are difficult to read. Objects are also so small that it makes it difficult to hone in on the outlets of objects.
Is there some setting that can set at launch to make those things bigger?
Many thanks!
- martin
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Great, I will have a go and report!
Many thanks!
On 17 April 2016 at 19:04, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
From that link, it looks like you can add settings/small scripts inside the ~/.wishrc and/or ~/.tclkitrc files in your home folder. I assume setting the dpi there will affect tcl/tk apps like pd…
The relevant info that caught my attention is:
MGS - The tk scaling value should be set to its correct value as early as possible. I do this in my ~/.wishrc file as follows: tk scaling -displayof . [expr {101.6 / 72.0}] I know my monitor is 101.6 DPI by measuring with a ruler and dividing into the screen resolution.
Seems like if you know your screen’s dpi, you can manually try setting the scaling amount you will need. At least worth a try.
I’m only assuming all of this by quickly doing a google search and finding that page. it may or may not work and is indeed an issue with tk’s implementation on your OS. I’m running Pd vanilla on a High PDI screen on OSX but Apple has added automatic app screen scaling in OSX.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 17, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Dan,
I understand the theory, but I have to confess that I don't understand the information in the link. COuld you elaborate on how one would use this information to increase the font size? I must confess that I have zero experience programming tcl or tk.
- martin
On 11 April 2016 at 08:41, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like you could set the tk scaling in a .wishrc file: http://wiki.tcl.tk/8484 (Press Show Discussion)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:08 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Menu fonts much too small on 4k screen Date: April 10, 2016 at 6:13:59 AM MDT To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at
ctrl+T is a good option to adjust the font size of the objects to your needs. About the menu, no idea yet.
Best:
Popesz
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I just acquired a new laptop with a 4K (3840x2160) screen, and am running Fedora Linux with PlanetCCRMA on it.
Everything works fine, pretty much, but everything in PD is just too small. The menus are difficult to read. Objects are also so small that it makes it difficult to hone in on the outlets of objects.
Is there some setting that can set at launch to make those things bigger?
Many thanks!
- martin
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Further, on that page seems to be some script functions to handle automatic scaling calculation, so if a quick test works, this is something we could incorporate into pd at startup.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Apr 17, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Great, I will have a go and report!
Many thanks!
- martin
On 17 April 2016 at 19:04, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
From that link, it looks like you can add settings/small scripts inside the ~/.wishrc and/or ~/.tclkitrc files in your home folder. I assume setting the dpi there will affect tcl/tk apps like pd…
The relevant info that caught my attention is:
MGS - The tk scaling value should be set to its correct value as early as possible. I do this in my ~/.wishrc file as follows: tk scaling -displayof . [expr {101.6 / 72.0}] I know my monitor is 101.6 DPI by measuring with a ruler and dividing into the screen resolution.
Seems like if you know your screen’s dpi, you can manually try setting the scaling amount you will need. At least worth a try.
I’m only assuming all of this by quickly doing a google search and finding that page. it may or may not work and is indeed an issue with tk’s implementation on your OS. I’m running Pd vanilla on a High PDI screen on OSX but Apple has added automatic app screen scaling in OSX.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 17, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Dan,
I understand the theory, but I have to confess that I don't understand the information in the link. COuld you elaborate on how one would use this information to increase the font size? I must confess that I have zero experience programming tcl or tk.
- martin
On 11 April 2016 at 08:41, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like you could set the tk scaling in a .wishrc file: http://wiki.tcl.tk/8484 (Press Show Discussion)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:08 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Menu fonts much too small on 4k screen Date: April 10, 2016 at 6:13:59 AM MDT To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at
ctrl+T is a good option to adjust the font size of the objects to your needs. About the menu, no idea yet.
Best:
Popesz
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I just acquired a new laptop with a 4K (3840x2160) screen, and am running Fedora Linux with PlanetCCRMA on it.
Everything works fine, pretty much, but everything in PD is just too small. The menus are difficult to read. Objects are also so small that it makes it difficult to hone in on the outlets of objects.
Is there some setting that can set at launch to make those things bigger?
Many thanks!
- martin
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I just tried and that seems to make no difference at all, unfortunately.
I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help, it was worth a try!
On 17 April 2016 at 19:06, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Further, on that page seems to be some script functions to handle automatic scaling calculation, so if a quick test works, this is something we could incorporate into pd at startup.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 17, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Great, I will have a go and report!
Many thanks!
- martin
On 17 April 2016 at 19:04, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
From that link, it looks like you can add settings/small scripts inside the ~/.wishrc and/or ~/.tclkitrc files in your home folder. I assume setting the dpi there will affect tcl/tk apps like pd…
The relevant info that caught my attention is:
MGS - The tk scaling value should be set to its correct value as early as possible. I do this in my ~/.wishrc file as follows: tk scaling -displayof . [expr {101.6 / 72.0}] I know my monitor is 101.6 DPI by measuring with a ruler and dividing into the screen resolution.
Seems like if you know your screen’s dpi, you can manually try setting the scaling amount you will need. At least worth a try.
I’m only assuming all of this by quickly doing a google search and finding that page. it may or may not work and is indeed an issue with tk’s implementation on your OS. I’m running Pd vanilla on a High PDI screen on OSX but Apple has added automatic app screen scaling in OSX.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 17, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Dan,
I understand the theory, but I have to confess that I don't understand the information in the link. COuld you elaborate on how one would use this information to increase the font size? I must confess that I have zero experience programming tcl or tk.
- martin
On 11 April 2016 at 08:41, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like you could set the tk scaling in a .wishrc file: http://wiki.tcl.tk/8484 (Press Show Discussion)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:08 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Menu fonts much too small on 4k screen Date: April 10, 2016 at 6:13:59 AM MDT To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at
ctrl+T is a good option to adjust the font size of the objects to your needs. About the menu, no idea yet.
Best:
Popesz
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Martin Dupras martindupras@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I just acquired a new laptop with a 4K (3840x2160) screen, and am running Fedora Linux with PlanetCCRMA on it.
Everything works fine, pretty much, but everything in PD is just too small. The menus are difficult to read. Objects are also so small that it makes it difficult to hone in on the outlets of objects.
Is there some setting that can set at launch to make those things bigger?
Many thanks!
- martin
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I can't figure out how to make tk scaling do anything either. If anyone reading this has ever seen it have any effect at all I'd like to know what the magic is.
Meanwhile I'm working on a "zoom" for patches that migth at least help out for that part of things.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 07:07:59PM +0100, Martin Dupras wrote:
I just tried and that seems to make no difference at all, unfortunately.
I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help, it was worth a try!
- martin
There must be some way. Irregardless of in-canvas zooming, the tk widgets and general UI rendering is ridiculously small. I’m thinking it’s an issue with TK itself on those platforms. It’s working fine on OSX.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Apr 17, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
I can't figure out how to make tk scaling do anything either. If anyone reading this has ever seen it have any effect at all I'd like to know what the magic is.
Meanwhile I'm working on a "zoom" for patches that migth at least help out for that part of things.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 07:07:59PM +0100, Martin Dupras wrote:
I just tried and that seems to make no difference at all, unfortunately.
I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help, it was worth a try!
- martin
Perhaps I'm doing it wrong... on both OSX (10.6) and linux (fedora 210 I can type for instance:
wish % tk scaling 2 % button .b -text "asdfghjkl" % pack .b
and I get no difference, whether I had set "tk scaling" or not. Menus don't change either...
Am I missing something? (probably :)
M On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 03:48:36PM -0600, Dan Wilcox wrote:
There must be some way. Irregardless of in-canvas zooming, the tk widgets and general UI rendering is ridiculously small. I’m thinking it’s an issue with TK itself on those platforms. It’s working fine on OSX.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Apr 17, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
I can't figure out how to make tk scaling do anything either. If anyone reading this has ever seen it have any effect at all I'd like to know what the magic is.
Meanwhile I'm working on a "zoom" for patches that migth at least help out for that part of things.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 07:07:59PM +0100, Martin Dupras wrote:
I just tried and that seems to make no difference at all, unfortunately.
I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help, it was worth a try!
- martin
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Try wish
:pack [button .b -text hello]
tk scaling 4
pack [button .c -text hello]
tk scaling 12
pack [button .d -text hello]
On my machine the text remains the same size, but the button
gets larger each time.
If you use ttk::button instead, the button size doesn't change.
In no case should it ever affect sizes on a tk canvas.
-Jonathan
On Sunday, April 17, 2016 5:47 PM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
I can't figure out how to make tk scaling do anything either. If anyone reading this has ever seen it have any effect at all I'd like to know what the magic is.
Meanwhile I'm working on a "zoom" for patches that migth at least help out for that part of things.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 07:07:59PM +0100, Martin Dupras wrote:
I just tried and that seems to make no difference at all, unfortunately.
I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help, it was worth a try!
- martin
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All buttons stay the same for me on OSX 10.11.4.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika https://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Apr 17, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
Try
wish
: pack [button .b -text hello] tk scaling 4 pack [button .c -text hello] tk scaling 12 pack [button .d -text hello]On my machine the text remains the same size, but the button gets larger each time.
If you use ttk::button instead, the button size doesn't change.
In no case should it ever affect sizes on a tk canvas.
-Jonathan
On Sunday, April 17, 2016 5:47 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
I can't figure out how to make tk scaling do anything either. If anyone reading this has ever seen it have any effect at all I'd like to know what the magic is.
Meanwhile I'm working on a "zoom" for patches that migth at least help out for that part of things.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 07:07:59PM +0100, Martin Dupras wrote:
I just tried and that seems to make no difference at all, unfortunately.
I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help, it was worth a try!
- martin
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