likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb , current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance
Never used it or seen it in action, but there's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&hl=en plus some others on https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-java-coder-progra... though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as Android Studio...let me know how it goes though
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner billy.stiltner@gmail.com wrote:
likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb , current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list
http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in. imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument ready to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience that can join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Daniel Iglesia daniel.iglesia@gmail.com wrote:
Never used it or seen it in action, but there's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&hl=en plus some others on https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for- java-coder-programmers/ though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as Android Studio...let me know how it goes though
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner billy.stiltner@gmail.com wrote:
likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb , current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/li stinfo/pd-list
Maybe android is best used to send OSC messages to a pd patch running on a real computer. You have the accelerometers and possibly other sensors builtin, the whole thing is a gesture controller not a dsp machine.
Martin
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Billy Stiltner billy.stiltner@gmail.com wrote:
http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in. imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument ready to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience that can join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Daniel Iglesia daniel.iglesia@gmail.com wrote:
Never used it or seen it in action, but there's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&hl=en plus some others on https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-j ava-coder-programmers/ though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as Android Studio...let me know how it goes though
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner@gmail.com
wrote:
likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb , current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/li stinfo/pd-list
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list
re: android as dsp machine will be glad to find a java alternative for multiplatform that can send FUDI messages from a browser, without using anything between but air or cable. its kinda like , hey u know the world is gettin familiar with the networking and computer thing so the dream dynamic html compatibility across browsers is working (ma ybe with a bit of bloat) like it was imagined nearly 20 years ago except when you want to use the browser for local "same machine" networking or even "remote" networking on a private network, the low level communication protocols ought to be seamlessly integrated along with the elegant coding playground
The only free solution I've found for doing such thing is quite complicated as usual, and it's about creating many accounts on free servers allowing the use of sockets, a server at home running scripts for routing connections and upload a database where resides all parameters shared with all connected clients to the socket server, and an account on another server (I haven't found a free one but it's relatively cheap) that does the DNS mapping for connecting with a single URL.
Le 14/10/2016 à 06:06, Billy Stiltner a écrit :
http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in. imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument ready to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience that can join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Daniel Iglesia <daniel.iglesia@gmail.com mailto:daniel.iglesia@gmail.com> wrote:
Never used it or seen it in action, but there's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&hl=en <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&hl=en> plus some others on https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-java-coder-programmers/ <https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2014/12/android-apps-ide-for-java-coder-programmers/> though I doubt anything is going to be as well-supported as Android Studio...let me know how it goes though On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner@gmail.com <mailto:billy.stiltner@gmail.com>> wrote: likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them, or alternatively like a good url for learning how to root them, so the perfect ubuntustudio that is out now can be booted from usb , current android is rca viking pro, thnx in advance _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
On 14.10.2016 06:06, Billy Stiltner wrote:
http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in. imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument ready to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience that can join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.
DJ and me are doing apps for both: Accessing sensor data and sending it to Pd patches as well as sending the data via OSC. I will perform with several Android phones handed out to the audience next week in Munich.
Apparently we are still missing the documentation and downloads, but the code is there and contains help in English, Portuguese and German:
https://github.com/SensorApps http://sensors2.org/
Hth, Thomas
awesome thomas, the idea is not new, cell phone orchestras have been around a while, i guess some of the first ones were so that a group could play a microtonal pd or max patch. had to leave the studio early so didnt get to look into the free bsd server, am currently in a public park with some borrowed speakers with surround and sub bass, sitting on a pillow , jamming puredata recordings, playing my untuned(missplaced my tuning wrench and pocket knife) guitar through guitarix, and charging devices so i can work a bit in the peace and quiet of the off grid old old homeplace. maybe i can look up the free bsd from there. On Oct 17, 2016 8:06 PM, "Thomas Mayer" thomas@residuum.org wrote:
On 14.10.2016 06:06, Billy Stiltner wrote:
http://raw-sockets.sysapps.org/#interface-tcpsocket for a possible simpler 3rd option, its hard to find which direction to go in. imagine an impromptu group jam where you have a puredata instrument ready to accept messages over the internet and the group is the audience that can join in on the jam using their mobile devices as the interface.
DJ and me are doing apps for both: Accessing sensor data and sending it to Pd patches as well as sending the data via OSC. I will perform with several Android phones handed out to the audience next week in Munich.
Apparently we are still missing the documentation and downloads, but the code is there and contains help in English, Portuguese and German:
https://github.com/SensorApps http://sensors2.org/
Hth, Thomas -- "I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are." (Homer Simpson in: Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy) http://www.residuum.org/
re: free dhcp server https://www.isc.org/downloads/ found in freebsd docs not sure what OS it can be used with, maybe there is a debian package for it?
On 2016-10-18 10:40, Billy Stiltner wrote:
not sure what OS it can be used with, maybe there is a debian package for it?
yes, isc-dhcp-server is the standard professional¹ DHCP server in Debian.
fgmasdr IOhannes
¹ to be deployed in realworld networks; and as opposed to adhoc solutions like dnsmasq
On 14/10/16 06:30, Billy Stiltner wrote:
likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them
If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android, either to make sound or to control Pd patches running on another device, then MobMuPlat or PdDroidParty are both apps that can do that. MobMuPlat is still under very active development and looks amazing.
In the past I've built UIs in Pd, run then on Android devices with PdDroidParty and openned a netsend socket to another [headless] device running Pd to control it remotely with those UIs.
Cheers,
Chris.
awesome and thanks will look into it when i figure out how to set a wifi hotspot's wlan0 default ip to something other than eth0's gateway ip I haven't tried to do anything with libpd since it first came out and there was only one set of instructions for building for processing with eclipse, didn't know pdsend was included with it. on another note, found these things https://github.com/sampumon/websocket-bash http://websocketd.com/ also have tidied up my drumloops and drum samples collection so they all have lowercase .wav names as well as removed the spaces from all the filenames. now I can start cleaning up my patches that have oodlins of messageboxes with samples and loops. attached is sample selector patch have run into a problem with html/javascript with trying to put a really large mode selection page in a separate page or pages that loads up only a section at a time when needed so that the main page is not so big have looked at link rel type=html and html imports but neither work right it's a task getting data in a format that can be readily used in an easy way with here is the start of the list http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/modename.html it's apiece of work just copy and paste into your favorite text editor to see what i mean my active version of it can be seen here https://archive.org/download/xensynth/xesynthcontrol/
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On 14/10/16 06:30, Billy Stiltner wrote:
likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them
If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android, either to make sound or to control Pd patches running on another device, then MobMuPlat or PdDroidParty are both apps that can do that. MobMuPlat is still under very active development and looks amazing.
In the past I've built UIs in Pd, run then on Android devices with PdDroidParty and openned a netsend socket to another [headless] device running Pd to control it remotely with those UIs.
Cheers,
Chris.
re: "If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android" i also need the same webpage to run as an interface on the computer. still havent got this sorted out yet. i need something that will work like across platforms , so far the JAVA socket has been the best thing, its just that each platform (for pc) has dfferent ways of allowing the JAVA applets in the browser so ... was looking for a better solution that would also work with android. something like a pd ws server or your aciles would be great. i still havent found where your ; is getting replaced with /; its not too hard to filter them out. not sure i need to have the semicolons if i'm sending messages to pd from a webpage. seems like it should work without them not sure though
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Billy Stiltner billy.stiltner@gmail.com wrote:
awesome and thanks will look into it when i figure out how to set a wifi hotspot's wlan0 default ip to something other than eth0's gateway ip I haven't tried to do anything with libpd since it first came out and there was only one set of instructions for building for processing with eclipse, didn't know pdsend was included with it. on another note, found these things https://github.com/sampumon/websocket-bash http://websocketd.com/ also have tidied up my drumloops and drum samples collection so they all have lowercase .wav names as well as removed the spaces from all the filenames. now I can start cleaning up my patches that have oodlins of messageboxes with samples and loops. attached is sample selector patch have run into a problem with html/javascript with trying to put a really large mode selection page in a separate page or pages that loads up only a section at a time when needed so that the main page is not so big have looked at link rel type=html and html imports but neither work right it's a task getting data in a format that can be readily used in an easy way with here is the start of the list http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/modename.html it's apiece of work just copy and paste into your favorite text editor to see what i mean my active version of it can be seen here https://archive.org/download/xensynth/xesynthcontrol/
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On 14/10/16 06:30, Billy Stiltner wrote:
likeing to do everything very mobile, would love to know a good resource for finding android development apps that can be run right on the android that runs them
If all you want is to run Pd patches on Android, either to make sound or to control Pd patches running on another device, then MobMuPlat or PdDroidParty are both apps that can do that. MobMuPlat is still under very active development and looks amazing.
In the past I've built UIs in Pd, run then on Android devices with PdDroidParty and openned a netsend socket to another [headless] device running Pd to control it remotely with those UIs.
Cheers,
Chris.
-
Billy Stiltner -
Chris McCormick -
Daniel Iglesia -
IOhannes m zmoelnig -
Martin Peach -
patrice colet -
Thomas Mayer