ATIs are often problematic. If at all possible, I highly recommend anything by nVidia. The TNT should be fairly cheap these days and it works fine, although getting a better card always helps. Also, nVidia has tremendous support for Linux. I don't know how much ATI supports it.
Later, Mark
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-----Original Message----- From: Rory Walsh [mailto:rorytheroar@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:02 PM To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Subject: RE: [PD] Where can I download Gem for Linux ( not a debian distr ibution)
Ya Mark I have been told by several people now that I'm asking too much from my graphics card, aswell as my CPU, as for graphics cards I have located a rather cheap(I know i'll be killed for looking for something 'cheap', but I am a poor student!) graphics card, the ATI 'All in wonder'? Have you come across it at all? By installing this card and increasing my Ram to 256 is there a hope? Oh ya do i have to check to see if the card is linux compatible or will linux detect it itself? I know that everyone out there will be cringing when they imagine what strain I am putting my humble little computer under but until I return to college I have no choice, so all the help in most welcome! Cheers!
Rory.
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Mark Danks hat gesagt: // Mark Danks wrote:
ATIs are often problematic. If at all possible, I highly recommend anything by nVidia. The TNT should be fairly cheap these days and it works fine, although getting a better card always helps. Also, nVidia has tremendous support for Linux. I don't know how much ATI supports it.
Doesn't nVidia provide only binary drivers? I prefer Matrox, they give out specs and let the community do the coding. bye,
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Doesn't nVidia provide only binary drivers? I prefer Matrox, they give out specs and let the community do the coding. bye,
I agree on that, and the free drivers are more stable too, but if you really have to go for speed ...... use nVidia
Guenter
as far as i know there is no working DRI support for ATI cards . rendering is then without hradware accelleration and gem will give some error messages. u can then still use gem (from my experiance), but the single biffer mode will not work and gem will be unstable.
i cant explain why or if there is a solution for using gem without hardware accelleration - this is just what i experiance (i m sure mark or guenter are knowing why :-). i use a matrox g400 - dri works perfect with it.
cheers
erich
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Mark Danks wrote:
ATIs are often problematic. If at all possible, I highly recommend anything by nVidia. The TNT should be fairly cheap these days and it works fine, although getting a better card always helps. Also, nVidia has tremendous support for Linux. I don't know how much ATI supports it.
Later, Mark
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-----Original Message----- From: Rory Walsh [mailto:rorytheroar@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:02 PM To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Subject: RE: [PD] Where can I download Gem for Linux ( not a debian distr ibution)
Ya Mark I have been told by several people now that I'm asking too much from my graphics card, aswell as my CPU, as for graphics cards I have located a rather cheap(I know i'll be killed for looking for something 'cheap', but I am a poor student!) graphics card, the ATI 'All in wonder'? Have you come across it at all? By installing this card and increasing my Ram to 256 is there a hope? Oh ya do i have to check to see if the card is linux compatible or will linux detect it itself? I know that everyone out there will be cringing when they imagine what strain I am putting my humble little computer under but until I return to college I have no choice, so all the help in most welcome! Cheers!
Rory.
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hi
obviously, some of you are using the matrox-g4xx quite successfully. does anybody of you have made comparisions between nvidia-geforce and matrox-g4xx ? i tried both, and when i got splendid hw-acceleration geforce256 and geforce2, the performance is "quite" poor with the g450. "poor" meaning that it just costs half of my cpu to render, say, 50 moving geos (whereas with the geforce it is "nothing") which drivers do you use ? has there been a major improvement in the last months ? (since some time has elapsed, since i last tried it)
mfg.cdsa.zs IOhannes
a suggestion:
maybe u can provide a sample patch and then we look who is faster ;-)
my setup: pentium 400mhz, g400 16mb , 265mbram, kernel 2.4.2, XFree4.03,
cheers
erich
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Johannes M Zmoelnig wrote:
hi
obviously, some of you are using the matrox-g4xx quite successfully. does anybody of you have made comparisions between nvidia-geforce and matrox-g4xx ? i tried both, and when i got splendid hw-acceleration geforce256 and geforce2, the performance is "quite" poor with the g450. "poor" meaning that it just costs half of my cpu to render, say, 50 moving geos (whereas with the geforce it is "nothing") which drivers do you use ? has there been a major improvement in the last months ? (since some time has elapsed, since i last tried it)
mfg.cdsa.zs IOhannes
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 rat@telecoma.net wrote:
a suggestion:
maybe u can provide a sample patch and then we look who is faster ;-)
ok, i will do this when i am home again (in about one week)
my setup: pentium 400mhz, g400 16mb , 265mbram, kernel 2.4.2, XFree4.03,
has anybody access to a similar machine with a geforce ? or a faster one (like pIII-800mhz) with a matrox ?
cheers
erich
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 rat@telecoma.net wrote:
a suggestion:
maybe u can provide a sample patch and then we look who is faster ;-)
my setup: pentium 400mhz, g400 16mb , 265mbram, kernel 2.4.2, XFree4.03,
The nVidia card will be a lot faster ... It would be great to have some benchmark patches, not only how many triangles, but also texturing, pix computations to measure processors and the like, .. and to compare between windows and linux.
Guenter
Yes! It could be useful! Please does anyone want to publish a patch? (I'll do it when I come back to my country where my computer is)
See you!!
a suggestion:
maybe u can provide a sample patch and then we
look who is faster ;-)
my setup: pentium 400mhz, g400 16mb , 265mbram,
kernel 2.4.2, XFree4.03,
The nVidia card will be a lot faster ... It would be great to have some benchmark patches, not only how many triangles, but also texturing, pix computations to measure processors and the like, .. and to compare between windows and linux.
Guenter
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Johannes M Zmoelnig hat gesagt: // Johannes M Zmoelnig wrote:
obviously, some of you are using the matrox-g4xx quite successfully. does anybody of you have made comparisions between nvidia-geforce and matrox-g4xx ? i tried both, and when i got splendid hw-acceleration geforce256 and geforce2, the performance is "quite" poor with the g450. "poor" meaning that it just costs half of my cpu to render, say, 50 moving geos (whereas with the geforce it is "nothing")
GeForce cards are at least one generation ahead of the matrox 4xx cards in 3D features and speed. Only ATI's Radeon and maybe cards with that Kyro chipset, forgot the name, come close, but Radeons have no linux support yet.
Matrox G4xx are on par with nVidias older TNT chipsets. As I do really like open source software, I prefer open source drivers like one can get for Matrox cards, and one can not get for GeForce cards.
This sometimes remebers me of the bad old days, when there was no ALSA and when you had to buy commercial drivers to get the most out of your soundcard...
bye,
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