Since it isn't possible to delete individual scalars, what about the possibility to have different types of scalars (or scalars with different values) drawn to different subpatches, and then have a sort of master pd display that could be set to draw everything from several different subpatches. That way, for instance, to mute all the blue notes, I could just have pd-blue stop drawing to pd-score. Or one could delete all of a certain structure without deleting everything, simply by clearing the appropriate subpatch. I see 0.39 has a feature to turn off drawing for scalars, but does this actually remove them from the list? I guess it would be simple enough to add an extra variable for mute. Also, 0.39 has audio problems on my system. Thanks. -Chuckk
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Hi Chuckk -
I found as a workaround it works well enough to have a parameter (such as color) that you can set to a state you can identify as "off" - that way, through painstaking implementation depending on your actual patch, you can "hide" these scalars (i.e. set color to white), then have your patch ignore them. It's a lot more work this way, but in the end the result was satisfactory. I still don't understand why you can delete a scalar with a mouse click but not a command. I guess I'd have to dig into the source to see how it's implemented, and this is going waaay down on my list of things to do....
David
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From: Chuckk Hubbard badmuthahubbard@gmail.com To: Pure Data List pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Data Structures feature request Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:49:25 -0400
Since it isn't possible to delete individual scalars, what about the possibility to have different types of scalars (or scalars with different values) drawn to different subpatches, and then have a sort of master pd display that could be set to draw everything from several different subpatches. That way, for instance, to mute all the blue notes, I could just have pd-blue stop drawing to pd-score. Or one could delete all of a certain structure without deleting everything, simply by clearing the appropriate subpatch. I see 0.39 has a feature to turn off drawing for scalars, but does this actually remove them from the list? I guess it would be simple enough to add an extra variable for mute. Also, 0.39 has audio problems on my system. Thanks. -Chuckk
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Hallo, Chuckk Hubbard hat gesagt: // Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
Since it isn't possible to delete individual scalars, what about the possibility to have different types of scalars (or scalars with different values) drawn to different subpatches, and then have a sort of master pd display that could be set to draw everything from several different subpatches. That way, for instance, to mute all the blue notes, I could just have pd-blue stop drawing to pd-score. Or one could delete all of a certain structure without deleting everything, simply by clearing the appropriate subpatch.
For now, another approach also can be data structure subpatches layered in subpatches with graph on parent enabled. You loose the ability to edit all data directly in edit mode, but you can clear everything, that is in its own subpatch easily (like the subpatch with all the blue notes)
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
For now, another approach also can be data structure subpatches layered in subpatches with graph on parent enabled. You loose the ability to edit all data directly in edit mode, but you can clear everything, that is in its own subpatch easily (like the subpatch with all the blue notes)
Illustrated is this approach in attached patch.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
On Oct 30, 2005, at 1:50 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Chuckk Hubbard hat gesagt: // Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
Since it isn't possible to delete individual scalars, what about the possibility to have different types of scalars (or scalars with
different values) drawn to different subpatches, and then have a sort of master
pd display that could be set to draw everything from several different subpatches. That way, for instance, to mute all the blue notes, I
could just have pd-blue stop drawing to pd-score. Or one could delete all of a
certain structure without deleting everything, simply by clearing the
appropriate subpatch.For now, another approach also can be data structure subpatches layered in subpatches with graph on parent enabled. You loose the ability to edit all data directly in edit mode, but you can clear everything, that is in its own subpatch easily (like the subpatch with all the blue notes)
I don't know whether the 0.39 changes would obsolete this, but I have a
different workaround in my Solitude environment
(http://at.or.at/hans/solitude). Basically, if I want to turn off a
track, I save all of the tracks in their own file, then clear all of
the data structures, then reload the tracks that I want to see. It
works well enough.
.hc
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