Hi guys,
Anyone here ever teach pd or other FOSS programmes remotely? Aalex and I are working on a pilot project with two artist-run centres in Canada to see what works best for teaching pd at a distance.
We have had one in person session with the students (who are mainly visual artists) and we are now under way with the remote part of it all. We have set up an irc channel (#pd-prairies), a mailing list ( pd-prairies@lists.artengine.ca )and we are having them contribute to a wiki (all of which they seem relatively to be comfortable with).
Anyone here ever use any FOSS software to facilitate teaching/ learning at a distance? We turned to skype for the first remote session but obviously ran into issues with the we visual side of things (we ended up sounding like robots when the web cam was in use so in the end we only used voice...collective blind patching is an interesting experience ;-)
We will be writing a report at the end of the project for those of you who are interested.
Kindly,
Darsha
Hi Darsha,
i once remember "seeing" a virtual talk of i think Ben Bogart, who had his desktop relayed via VNC, streamed his voice and the output of his patch via an audio stream and was receiving questions and responses via an irc channel.
This worked out quite good. If you want to give it a try, let's arrange a date/time to do so?
lg, PP
darsha hewitt wrote:
Hi guys,
Anyone here ever teach pd or other FOSS programmes remotely? Aalex and I are working on a pilot project with two artist-run centres in Canada to see what works best for teaching pd at a distance.
We have had one in person session with the students (who are mainly visual artists) and we are now under way with the remote part of it all. We have set up an irc channel (#pd-prairies), a mailing list ( pd-prairies@lists.artengine.ca )and we are having them contribute to a wiki (all of which they seem relatively to be comfortable with).
Anyone here ever use any FOSS software to facilitate teaching/ learning at a distance? We turned to skype for the first remote session but obviously ran into issues with the we visual side of things (we ended up sounding like robots when the web cam was in use so in the end we only used voice...collective blind patching is an interesting experience ;-)
We will be writing a report at the end of the project for those of you who are interested.
Kindly,
Darsha
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hello
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 12:04 -0400, darsha hewitt wrote:
Hi guys,
Anyone here ever teach pd or other FOSS programmes remotely?
i know a teacher from the 'royal welsh college of music and drama' [1], who is sometimes using netpd in order to have lessons with his students remotely (some of his students have been guest students in wales and are at home now). if you are interested, i might give you the contact (after his agreement).
the main goal of netpd, when using it as a remote teaching tool, is that you can easily share patches. you cannot edit patches synchronously on different computers, but if someone made some changes to it, she/he just needs to change the version tag and then, after a reload, it gets uploaded to everyone's else computer again.
there is no audio streaming functionality implemented yet in netpd. but you can either chat using _chat.pd, that comes with netpd, or, if that is too awkward, there is also irc.
roman
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My bro and I wrote serendiPd a few years ago with the idea of working
on the same patch together at the same time. It works as a proof-of-
concept, and with some more work, it might be a usable tool:
The tricky part that needs to be worked out is controlled who can
edit at a given moment.
.hc
On May 14, 2007, at 12:04 PM, darsha hewitt wrote:
Hi guys,
Anyone here ever teach pd or other FOSS programmes remotely? Aalex and I are working on a pilot project with two artist-run
centres in Canada to see what works best for teaching pd at a
distance.We have had one in person session with the students (who are mainly
visual artists) and we are now under way with the remote part of it
all. We have set up an irc channel (#pd-prairies), a mailing list
(pd-prairies@lists.artengine.ca )and we are having them contribute
to a wiki (all of which they seem relatively to be comfortable with).Anyone here ever use any FOSS software to facilitate teaching/
learning at a distance? We turned to skype for the first remote
session but obviously ran into issues with the we visual side of
things (we ended up sounding like robots when the web cam was in
use so in the end we only used voice...collective blind patching is
an interesting experience ;-)We will be writing a report at the end of the project for those of
you who are interested.Kindly,
Darsha
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Hi,
I have some expierience now with video conferencing for classes, with both teachers and students online. I would like to share my experiences, but sinsce we were using mac's ichat and did not vnc a screencapture I am not sure if that is of interest for you. we never had more that 4 parties involved, since the core class still was gathering at one place. students were using a group chat, but the "teacher" was not actively chatting only sometimes posting a link. anyway the sound and video quality was quite good...
files (patches) should be prepared online, downloadable and run locally. I think it is very hard to manage the backflow information, like when people are patching locally and run into problems. you could use screenshots for that or a webcam on a cable, but both is only a hack. I don't know if it is possible to integrate a vnc kind of screen video into a skype or ichat session, anyway that would be a way to go...
how many people do you want to be in such a remote teaching session?
marius.
darsha hewitt wrote:
Hi guys,
Anyone here ever teach pd or other FOSS programmes remotely? Aalex and I are working on a pilot project with two artist-run centres in Canada to see what works best for teaching pd at a distance.
We have had one in person session with the students (who are mainly visual artists) and we are now under way with the remote part of it all. We have set up an irc channel (#pd-prairies), a mailing list (pd-prairies@lists.artengine.ca mailto:pd-prairies@lists.artengine.ca )and we are having them contribute to a wiki (all of which they seem relatively to be comfortable with).
Anyone here ever use any FOSS software to facilitate teaching/ learning at a distance? We turned to skype for the first remote session but obviously ran into issues with the we visual side of things (we ended up sounding like robots when the web cam was in use so in the end we only used voice...collective blind patching is an interesting experience ;-)
We will be writing a report at the end of the project for those of you who are interested.
Kindly,
Darsha
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Hi, I have thought about using recordmydesktop to create little screencasts, but they would still need to be converted or edited a minimum. That is not live. VNC could work, but this is a bit Windows-ish, no? Screenshots are ok, but we would be better off making them in advance, if we want to be able to talk at the same time... Remote X (ssh -X) sessions are useless, because they would not see what we do... Maybe we could ssh a session on their computer and start pd on their X11 session... They could grab it with a web cam and stream us the result... And we could talk to them using something like jack-udp and pd.
At least, I can say that preparing a few patches is quite good for remote workshops. Also, asking them to ask their questions on IRC is the best thing, I find.
So, I think that Ben Bogart's way (VNC + voice + IRC) is the way to go. Got to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
Do you guys think that Pd + jack-udp is faster than Skype ? (skype is proprietary, also...)
a
2007/5/14, marius schebella marius.schebella@gmail.com:
Hi,
I have some expierience now with video conferencing for classes, with both teachers and students online. I would like to share my experiences, but sinsce we were using mac's ichat and did not vnc a screencapture I am not sure if that is of interest for you. we never had more that 4 parties involved, since the core class still was gathering at one place. students were using a group chat, but the "teacher" was not actively chatting only sometimes posting a link. anyway the sound and video quality was quite good...
files (patches) should be prepared online, downloadable and run locally. I think it is very hard to manage the backflow information, like when people are patching locally and run into problems. you could use screenshots for that or a webcam on a cable, but both is only a hack. I don't know if it is possible to integrate a vnc kind of screen video into a skype or ichat session, anyway that would be a way to go...
how many people do you want to be in such a remote teaching session?
marius.
darsha hewitt wrote:
Hi guys,
Anyone here ever teach pd or other FOSS programmes remotely? Aalex and I are working on a pilot project with two artist-run centres in Canada to see what works best for teaching pd at a distance.
We have had one in person session with the students (who are mainly visual artists) and we are now under way with the remote part of it all. We have set up an irc channel (#pd-prairies), a mailing list (pd-prairies@lists.artengine.ca mailto:pd-prairies@lists.artengine.ca )and we are having them contribute to a wiki (all of which they seem relatively to be comfortable with).
Anyone here ever use any FOSS software to facilitate teaching/ learning at a distance? We turned to skype for the first remote session but obviously ran into issues with the we visual side of things (we ended up sounding like robots when the web cam was in use so in the end we only used voice...collective blind patching is an interesting experience ;-)
We will be writing a report at the end of the project for those of you who are interested.
Kindly,
Darsha
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