Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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I tested this with Pd-Vanilla 0.43-0 and there are no problems. The patch windows come up nicely.
I tried to test it with a Pd-Extended-0.43.1autobuild but I keep getting load errors and can't open any patch windows :P Is there a more stable version somewhere?
As for Pd-Extended 0.42.5, there are some options: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20083707-263/managing-mac-os-x-lions-ap...
You can hold Option when quitting (aka Cmd+Opt+Q ) to bypass the save state mechanism and delete any current states.
You can also disable the state saving by locking the state folder for Pd-Extended itself in ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.pd.wish.savedState/ through the Get Info dialog (CMD+I) ...
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
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Oops, right, what are the errors you are getting? Please post the
error log. If its about not loading objects, try removing your
preferences.
.hc
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I tested this with Pd-Vanilla 0.43-0 and there are no problems. The
patch windows come up nicely.I tried to test it with a Pd-Extended-0.43.1autobuild but I keep
getting load errors and can't open any patch windows :P Is there a
more stable version somewhere?As for Pd-Extended 0.42.5, there are some options: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20083707-263/managing-mac-os-x-lions-ap...
You can hold Option when quitting (aka Cmd+Opt+Q ) to bypass the
save state mechanism and delete any current states.You can also disable the state saving by locking the state folder
for Pd-Extended itself in ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/ org.puredata.pd.wish.savedState/ through the Get Info dialog (CMD +I) ...On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended
0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it
was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the
previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It
automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet
ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save
state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows
before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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Ok, it dawned on me that Pd-Vanilla was working fine since it's not loading the prefs file I use for Pd-Extended ...
I tracked it down to my startup line which loads my main audio/OSC/playlist patch on startup in Pd-Extended. I usually leave that always open, so quitting with it open means Pd-extended starts 2 at the same time and I get problems:
tk scaling is 1.0 Pt_Start() called in stat: : No such file or directory in stat: : No such file or directory udpreceive: bind: Address already in use (48) bind: Address already in use (48) pd: exiting
When the two patches start, there's a beach ball running then pd exits. Now it seems to exit nicely, so perhaps 10.7's autokill sends a sigterm, etc when the socket binding takes too long ... although Im only guessing.
Removing the patch from startup fixes the problem, pd can resume patches fine ... I even tried quitting and restarting with a couple copies of udprecieve-help open and no problems ... hrm so it's in my patch somehow. Will test some more.
On Aug 29, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Oops, right, what are the errors you are getting? Please post the error log. If its about not loading objects, try removing your preferences.
.hc
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I tested this with Pd-Vanilla 0.43-0 and there are no problems. The patch windows come up nicely.
I tried to test it with a Pd-Extended-0.43.1autobuild but I keep getting load errors and can't open any patch windows :P Is there a more stable version somewhere?
As for Pd-Extended 0.42.5, there are some options: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20083707-263/managing-mac-os-x-lions-ap...
You can hold Option when quitting (aka Cmd+Opt+Q ) to bypass the save state mechanism and delete any current states.
You can also disable the state saving by locking the state folder for Pd-Extended itself in ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.pd.wish.savedState/ through the Get Info dialog (CMD+I) ...
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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Ok, I narrowed it down to udpsend in Pd-Extended 0.42.5 ...
Here's how to reproduce the startup saved state crash on Mac OSX 10.7:
- open the udpsend help file and save it to your home dir
- add this file to your startup commands: Pd-Extended->Preferences...->Startup..., add ~/udpsend-help.pd to the end of startup flags
- Quit Pd-Extended with the udpsend-help file still open.
- Pd-Extended should now crash after loading the patch windows.
I tried the same with udpreceive and netsend without any problems ...
Can someone else do this to confirm it's not my setup ... ?
Any thoughts Martin?
On Aug 29, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Oops, right, what are the errors you are getting? Please post the error log. If its about not loading objects, try removing your preferences.
.hc
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I tested this with Pd-Vanilla 0.43-0 and there are no problems. The patch windows come up nicely.
I tried to test it with a Pd-Extended-0.43.1autobuild but I keep getting load errors and can't open any patch windows :P Is there a more stable version somewhere?
As for Pd-Extended 0.42.5, there are some options: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20083707-263/managing-mac-os-x-lions-ap...
You can hold Option when quitting (aka Cmd+Opt+Q ) to bypass the save state mechanism and delete any current states.
You can also disable the state saving by locking the state folder for Pd-Extended itself in ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.pd.wish.savedState/ through the Get Info dialog (CMD+I) ...
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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I made a GUI plugin to delete and disable the Lion saved states. Copy the attached GUI plugin to ~/Library/Pd and it should stop these crashes:
Please let me know if it works for you, or whether you have a crash after installing this.
.hc
On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Ok, I narrowed it down to udpsend in Pd-Extended 0.42.5 ...
Here's how to reproduce the startup saved state crash on Mac OSX 10.7:
- open the udpsend help file and save it to your home dir
- add this file to your startup commands: Pd-Extended->Preferences...->Startup..., add ~/udpsend-help.pd to the end of startup flags
- Quit Pd-Extended with the udpsend-help file still open.
- Pd-Extended should now crash after loading the patch windows.
I tried the same with udpreceive and netsend without any problems ...
Can someone else do this to confirm it's not my setup ... ?
Any thoughts Martin?
On Aug 29, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Oops, right, what are the errors you are getting? Please post the error log. If its about not loading objects, try removing your preferences.
.hc
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I tested this with Pd-Vanilla 0.43-0 and there are no problems. The patch windows come up nicely.
I tried to test it with a Pd-Extended-0.43.1autobuild but I keep getting load errors and can't open any patch windows :P Is there a more stable version somewhere?
As for Pd-Extended 0.42.5, there are some options: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20083707-263/managing-mac-os-x-lions-ap...
You can hold Option when quitting (aka Cmd+Opt+Q ) to bypass the save state mechanism and delete any current states.
You can also disable the state saving by locking the state folder for Pd-Extended itself in ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.pd.wish.savedState/ through the Get Info dialog (CMD+I) ...
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
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I'll check it out. So far, locking that folder and lot having states works great.
enohp ym morf tnes
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
I made a GUI plugin to delete and disable the Lion saved states. Copy the attached GUI plugin to ~/Library/Pd and it should stop these crashes:
<lion-saved-state-crash-fix-plugin.tcl>
Please let me know if it works for you, or whether you have a crash after installing this.
.hc
On Aug 30, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Ok, I narrowed it down to udpsend in Pd-Extended 0.42.5 ...
Here's how to reproduce the startup saved state crash on Mac OSX 10.7:
- open the udpsend help file and save it to your home dir
- add this file to your startup commands: Pd-Extended->Preferences...->Startup..., add ~/udpsend-help.pd to the end of startup flags
- Quit Pd-Extended with the udpsend-help file still open.
- Pd-Extended should now crash after loading the patch windows.
I tried the same with udpreceive and netsend without any problems ...
Can someone else do this to confirm it's not my setup ... ?
Any thoughts Martin?
On Aug 29, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Oops, right, what are the errors you are getting? Please post the error log. If its about not loading objects, try removing your preferences.
.hc
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I tested this with Pd-Vanilla 0.43-0 and there are no problems. The patch windows come up nicely.
I tried to test it with a Pd-Extended-0.43.1autobuild but I keep getting load errors and can't open any patch windows :P Is there a more stable version somewhere?
As for Pd-Extended 0.42.5, there are some options: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20083707-263/managing-mac-os-x-lions-ap...
You can hold Option when quitting (aka Cmd+Opt+Q ) to bypass the save state mechanism and delete any current states.
You can also disable the state saving by locking the state folder for Pd-Extended itself in ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.pd.wish.savedState/ through the Get Info dialog (CMD+I) ...
On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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Hmm.. maybe that should be the first line of the Tcl main.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:16:15AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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Nah, you're fine. It's a problem with Pd-extended 0.42.5 ... Pd-0.43.0 Vanilla handles resume fine. :D
On Aug 28, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm.. maybe that should be the first line of the Tcl main.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:16:15AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended 0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open. It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...
If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help" apple.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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How about Pd-extended 0.43? Hey Dan, this would make a great FAQ entry:
.hc
On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Nah, you're fine. It's a problem with Pd-extended 0.42.5 ...
Pd-0.43.0 Vanilla handles resume fine. :DOn Aug 28, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm.. maybe that should be the first line of the Tcl main.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:16:15AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Since I've upgraded to Mac OSX 10.7 Lion, I've noticed Pd-extended
0.42.5 seemed to crash on startup sometimes, while other times it
was fine. It finally dawned on me that OSX is trying to load the
previous "saved state" since I had CMD-Q'd Pd with windows open.
It automatically opens those windows at start. I assume pd is not
yet ready for these and crashes due to some init order issue ...If anyone else has noticed this, a quick fix is to delete the save
state so you can open Pd again. Then make sure to close all
windows before quitting the next time ... thanks for the "help"
apple.http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/17/delete-specific-application-saved-states-from...
Commandline:
rm -rf ~/Library/Saved\ Application\ State/org.puredata.*
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