Last week I accidentally Googled up a Knoppix-based live CD intended for Pure Data usage! Recalling the discussion we had a while back about "executables" and so on, I thought it would be interesting to post it here. Apologies if the original creator of this disk has already brought it to your attention:
http://stream.sil.at/pdknoppix/
This disk boots fine on my PC laptop, but I find a few things missing: Jack, PDP and PiDiP to name a few. Maybe if "eof" would like to get in touch, the mission could be continued?
Did I mention that, at 202 Mb, you can fit it on a mini-CD? How horribly cute! ;-)
best, D.
I like the knoppix distribution too
but the last time I looked at it, I didn't see any ALSA driver ; did they update that ?
Selon derek holzer derek@x-i.net:
Last week I accidentally Googled up a Knoppix-based live CD intended for Pure Data usage! Recalling the discussion we had a while back about "executables" and so on, I thought it would be interesting to post it here. Apologies if the original creator of this disk has already brought it to your attention:
http://stream.sil.at/pdknoppix/
This disk boots fine on my PC laptop, but I find a few things missing: Jack, PDP and PiDiP to name a few. Maybe if "eof" would like to get in touch, the mission could be continued?
Did I mention that, at 202 Mb, you can fit it on a mini-CD? How horribly cute! ;-)
best, D.
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Can't remember which system they were using. I *do* remember that using the "configure audio" button in the window-manager menu broke the audio, however! ;-)
Seeing as PD doesn't "officially" get along with ALSA, I think Jack would be a good choice anyway. Of course, there is always OSS emulation under ALSA. I'll take a look tonight and see what it works with. Have some serious ideas to "remaster" this disc a bit...
d.
julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:
I like the knoppix distribution too
but the last time I looked at it, I didn't see any ALSA driver ; did they update that ?
So correct me if I'm wrong as I am knew to the whole Knoppix thing, but basically its possible to run a mini linux setup just for audio from a CD on my PC? If so how do I load my pd files? From another partition on my hard drive?
--- derek holzer derek@x-i.net wrote: > Can't remember which system they were using. I *do*
remember that using the "configure audio" button in the window-manager menu broke the audio, however! ;-)
Seeing as PD doesn't "officially" get along with ALSA, I think Jack would be a good choice anyway. Of course, there is always OSS emulation under ALSA. I'll take a look tonight and see what it works with. Have some serious ideas to "remaster" this disc a bit...
d.
julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:
I like the knoppix distribution too
but the last time I looked at it, I didn't see any
ALSA driver ; did they
update that ?
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So correct me if I'm wrong as I am knew to the whole Knoppix thing, but basically its possible to run a mini linux setup just for audio from a CD on my PC? If so how do I load my pd files? From another partition on my hard drive?
from another partition in yr HD or from some floppy, memory stick, from the net (first you need to configure properly the network), etc..... I am not sure if you could even remove the cd and introduce another one with your files, open again and then reintroduce the Knoppix...
--- derek holzer derek@x-i.net wrote: > Can't remember which system they were using. I *do*
remember that using the "configure audio" button in the window-manager menu broke the audio, however! ;-)
Seeing as PD doesn't "officially" get along with ALSA, I think Jack would be a good choice anyway. Of course, there is always OSS emulation under ALSA. I'll take a look tonight and see what it works with. Have some serious ideas to "remaster" this disc a bit...
d.
julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:
I like the knoppix distribution too
but the last time I looked at it, I didn't see any
ALSA driver ; did they
update that ?
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I'm very interested in this, and it would be great if someone could do a live Linux distribution of PD with all the Linux goodies.
Being a Windows user, i was always interested to test pidip, pdp and all the Linux specifics, but i never had the time to install and learn Linux,so this cd would be a great, great thing.
derek holzer derek@x-i.net wrote: Can't remember which system they were using. I *do* remember that using the "configure audio" button in the window-manager menu broke the audio, however! ;-)
Seeing as PD doesn't "officially" get along with ALSA, I think Jack would be a good choice anyway. Of course, there is always OSS emulation under ALSA. I'll take a look tonight and see what it works with. Have some serious ideas to "remaster" this disc a bit...
d.
julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:
I like the knoppix distribution too
but the last time I looked at it, I didn't see any ALSA driver ; did they update that ?
Since a few people asked on and off list, maybe I should explain this "live CD" concept...
A live CD is a Linux distribution that runs from the CDROM. Most live CDs allow you to mount your existing harddrives and read/write from and to them [although be careful wrting to NTFS!]. For people used to making binary executables in Max, I find live CDs a much more open way of distributing your work.
For people looking to try Linux, they are fantastic, as they don't require a seperate partition. You can even use them to rescue data from your harddrive when your Linux or "Evil Empire"[TM] OS crashes or gets messed up.
Some live CDs even allow you to install them as working, hard-disk based operating systems. Knoppix in particular is fairly good for this, although you won't have a particularly optimized system...
Most live CDs are for PC architecture, and won't work on Macs. The exception are the live CDs which Gentoo uses for starting any installation, which are made for most major architectures and processors, but often only have the most basic packages involved needed for bootstrapping and installing Gentoo. I suppose these too could be remastered. I am particularly interested in making PD live CDs for PPC [Mac] architecture, so if anybody has any experience with remastering Gentoo PPC live CDs, please contact me offlist!!!
The live PD CD I mentioned is based on Knoppix, which is a vey popular live Linux CD. Others exist, such as the fabulous Dynebolic [includes PD, soon to include PDP!!!], whose main audience is artists, teachers and activists:
Guenter Geiger also has a live CD using Knoppix and some of the unofficial Debian/Agnula/DeMuDi packages:
http://devel.demudi.org/images/live/
Another live CD I haven't tried is MediaLinux @ OSL:
ftp://logx.it/mirrors/medialinux/
The official Knoppix CD can be found on their site, along with instructions on how to "remaster" your own Knoppix CD using Debian packages:
And, of course, the PD Knoppix CD I originally posted lives here:
http://stream.sil.at/pdknoppix/
Good luck trying these out, and have fun ;-) d.
Hi again,
answering your own posts is a sure sign of sanity!
derek holzer wrote:
I am particularly interested in making PD live CDs for PPC [Mac] architecture,
Google is really a wonder! Turns out there are a couple different versions of Knoppix for PPC:
http://www.confederatelinux.com/linux/knop-ppc.htm
So the idea of live Linux/PPC PD CDs isn't too far off. Imagine, all you TiBook fanatics... being able to fully exploit the powers of PDP+PiDiP, without even having to re-partition!
d.
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
But Pd does officially support ALSA as well as Jack.
Then why does the "media" menu of PD 0.37 only show OSS and Jack? And why must I use OSS emulation to get PD running without Jack? And why do my compiles fail why I try to use the defunct "--enable-alsa" flag?***
I think the "official" support died after 0.36. Or am I horribly, terribly, delusionally mistaken?
;-) d.
*** ok, to be totally honest, I am actually using Gentoo ebuilds, which fail to compile with the USE="alsa" flag enabled. I know it's not *exactly* the same thing, but still close...
Frank,
derek holzer wrote:
*** ok, to be totally honest, I am actually using Gentoo ebuilds, which fail to compile with the USE="alsa" flag enabled. I know it's not *exactly* the same thing, but still close...
Sorry, I lied. I am compiling from CVS on current machine, and ebuilding from Gentoo on another. Neither way gets me ALSA support, flags or no.
Gotta stop answering myself here... starting to feel a little schizo ;-)
g'nite, d.
Hmm, I'm running alsa with no trouble here in RedHat land. ./configure finds alsa automatically. (If it doesn't, the media menu won't show it.) So perhaps this is some new way of configuring alsa that I don't know about?
You aren't running a 2.6 kernel by any chance, are you? Alsa might work differently there than in 2.4... in which case I'll have to load 2.6 and try it out here.
cheers Miller
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 01:11:51AM +0100, derek holzer wrote:
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
But Pd does officially support ALSA as well as Jack.
Then why does the "media" menu of PD 0.37 only show OSS and Jack? And why must I use OSS emulation to get PD running without Jack? And why do my compiles fail why I try to use the defunct "--enable-alsa" flag?***
I think the "official" support died after 0.36. Or am I horribly, terribly, delusionally mistaken?
;-) d.
*** ok, to be totally honest, I am actually using Gentoo ebuilds, which fail to compile with the USE="alsa" flag enabled. I know it's not *exactly* the same thing, but still close...
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Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm, I'm running alsa with no trouble here in RedHat land. ./configure finds alsa automatically. (If it doesn't, the media menu won't show it.) So perhaps this is some new way of configuring alsa that I don't know about?
You aren't running a 2.6 kernel by any chance, are you? Alsa might work differently there than in 2.4... in which case I'll have to load 2.6 and try it out here.
SHould be the same. I've switched to 2.6 for almost all things - except printing... :( - and this doesn't really affect ALSA applications, as the kernel sources only include the ALSA drivers, but applications normally use the asound library.
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm, I'm running alsa with no trouble here in RedHat land. ./configure finds alsa automatically. (If it doesn't, the media menu won't show it.) So perhaps this is some new way of configuring alsa that I don't know about?
You aren't running a 2.6 kernel by any chance, are you? Alsa might work differently there than in 2.4... in which case I'll have to load 2.6 and try it out here.
cheers Miller
I've tried alsa with pd-37 on 2 separate machines and 3 different soundcards. On each of them, alsa is working and I can play sound with apps such as xmms or aplay. However, with pd-37, alsa doesn't work at all.
sb audigy: alsa doesn't work, hangs pd. oss over alsa works on an sb audigy. jack also works.
RME hammerfall: alsa doesn't work, hangs pd. oss over alsa hangs pd. jack works fine.
ess 1968: alsa deosn't work, hangs pd. oss over alsa doesn't work, hangs pd. jack doesn't work (because of jackd problems with this card).
before, alsa was working fine with all of them. I also get a number of alsa compile problems with pd-37.
best -august.
The confusion arises because of the "--enable-alsa" flag, which is according to ./configure --help not supported, but, actually disables alsa. This is a bug in configure.in, where the line:
AC_ARG_ENABLE(alsa, [ --disable-alsa disable ALSA], alsa=yes)
should be:
AC_ARG_ENABLE(alsa, [ --disable-alsa disable ALSA], alsa=$enableval)
This way --disable-alsa and --enable-alsa work correctly. Default is still to enable the ALSA support. If the compiler can't find your ALSA libraries ./configure output will tell you.
Guenter
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm, I'm running alsa with no trouble here in RedHat land. ./configure finds alsa automatically. (If it doesn't, the media menu won't show it.) So perhaps this is some new way of configuring alsa that I don't know about?
You aren't running a 2.6 kernel by any chance, are you? Alsa might work differently there than in 2.4... in which case I'll have to load 2.6 and try it out here.
cheers Miller
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 01:11:51AM +0100, derek holzer wrote:
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
But Pd does officially support ALSA as well as Jack.
Then why does the "media" menu of PD 0.37 only show OSS and Jack? And why must I use OSS emulation to get PD running without Jack? And why do my compiles fail why I try to use the defunct "--enable-alsa" flag?***
I think the "official" support died after 0.36. Or am I horribly, terribly, delusionally mistaken?
;-) d.
*** ok, to be totally honest, I am actually using Gentoo ebuilds, which fail to compile with the USE="alsa" flag enabled. I know it's not *exactly* the same thing, but still close...
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Oops... I'll fix this ... obviously I had never thought to test it...
cheers Miller
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 04:14:34PM +0100, guenter geiger wrote:
The confusion arises because of the "--enable-alsa" flag, which is according to ./configure --help not supported, but, actually disables alsa. This is a bug in configure.in, where the line:
AC_ARG_ENABLE(alsa, [ --disable-alsa disable ALSA], alsa=yes)
should be:
AC_ARG_ENABLE(alsa, [ --disable-alsa disable ALSA], alsa=$enableval)
This way --disable-alsa and --enable-alsa work correctly. Default is still to enable the ALSA support. If the compiler can't find your ALSA libraries ./configure output will tell you.
Guenter
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm, I'm running alsa with no trouble here in RedHat land. ./configure finds alsa automatically. (If it doesn't, the media menu won't show it.) So perhaps this is some new way of configuring alsa that I don't know about?
You aren't running a 2.6 kernel by any chance, are you? Alsa might work differently there than in 2.4... in which case I'll have to load 2.6 and try it out here.
cheers Miller
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 01:11:51AM +0100, derek holzer wrote:
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
But Pd does officially support ALSA as well as Jack.
Then why does the "media" menu of PD 0.37 only show OSS and Jack? And why must I use OSS emulation to get PD running without Jack? And why do my compiles fail why I try to use the defunct "--enable-alsa" flag?***
I think the "official" support died after 0.36. Or am I horribly, terribly, delusionally mistaken?
;-) d.
*** ok, to be totally honest, I am actually using Gentoo ebuilds, which fail to compile with the USE="alsa" flag enabled. I know it's not *exactly* the same thing, but still close...
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Wow! Am I glad to get to the bottom of this! Maybe thats why the USE="alsa" flag breaks the Gentoo ebuild? Anyway, I am happy that it wasn't just me. Funny that it floated around for so long without anyone saying much...
d.
Miller Puckette wrote:
Oops... I'll fix this ... obviously I had never thought to test it...
cheers Miller
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 04:14:34PM +0100, guenter geiger wrote:
The confusion arises because of the "--enable-alsa" flag, which is according to ./configure --help not supported, but, actually disables alsa. This is a bug in configure.in, where the line:
AC_ARG_ENABLE(alsa, [ --disable-alsa disable ALSA], alsa=yes)
should be:
AC_ARG_ENABLE(alsa, [ --disable-alsa disable ALSA], alsa=$enableval)
This way --disable-alsa and --enable-alsa work correctly. Default is still to enable the ALSA support. If the compiler can't find your ALSA libraries ./configure output will tell you.
Guenter
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm, I'm running alsa with no trouble here in RedHat land. ./configure finds alsa automatically. (If it doesn't, the media menu won't show it.) So perhaps this is some new way of configuring alsa that I don't know about?
You aren't running a 2.6 kernel by any chance, are you? Alsa might work differently there than in 2.4... in which case I'll have to load 2.6 and try it out here.
cheers Miller
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 01:11:51AM +0100, derek holzer wrote:
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
But Pd does officially support ALSA as well as Jack.
Then why does the "media" menu of PD 0.37 only show OSS and Jack? And why must I use OSS emulation to get PD running without Jack? And why do my compiles fail why I try to use the defunct "--enable-alsa" flag?***
I think the "official" support died after 0.36. Or am I horribly, terribly, delusionally mistaken?
;-) d.
*** ok, to be totally honest, I am actually using Gentoo ebuilds, which fail to compile with the USE="alsa" flag enabled. I know it's not *exactly* the same thing, but still close...
Hallo, derek holzer hat gesagt: // derek holzer wrote:
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
But Pd does officially support ALSA as well as Jack.
Then why does the "media" menu of PD 0.37 only show OSS and Jack?
The "official" one from Miller's site should also show "ALSA". At least does so here. Do you have installed the libasound-headers?
I think the "official" support died after 0.36. Or am I horribly, terribly, delusionally mistaken?
I'm sorry to say but I suppose: Yes... ;)
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
There is something strange though. I recently compiled with alsa. Configure discovered it automatically. But I needed --enable-jack to get jack. What was weird that I first tried --enable-alsa and _that_ actually disabled alsa support. So get the sources en configure with only --enable-jack and you should have alsa and jack .
Gerard
On Thursday 11 March 2004 07:24, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
derek holzer hat gesagt: // derek holzer wrote:
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
But Pd does officially support ALSA as well as Jack.
Then why does the "media" menu of PD 0.37 only show OSS and Jack?
The "official" one from Miller's site should also show "ALSA". At least does so here. Do you have installed the libasound-headers?
I think the "official" support died after 0.36. Or am I horribly, terribly, delusionally mistaken?
I'm sorry to say but I suppose: Yes... ;)
ciao
as you already mentioned there are some live linux cds around including pd (but as far as I remember withoud pdp, pidip... ) like dynebolic, unofficial demudi live cds ..
very pdknoppix happens to be a year old now and somehow basic and preliminary of course, anyway I would still like the idea of a plain pd+and-most-important-tools-live-cd-fitting-on-a-mini-cd-idea (although i do not have the personal use of it myself at the moment) maybe there it is time to do a quick remaster or join some effort here.. what kind of things/tools are you missing in this kind of basic and (somehow) limited setup to continue the mission.? m.
derek holzer derek@x-i.net wrote [Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:12:14 +0100]:
Last week I accidentally Googled up a Knoppix-based live CD intended for Pure Data usage! Recalling the discussion we had a while back about "executables" and so on, I thought it would be interesting to post it here. Apologies if the original creator of this disk has already brought it to your attention:
http://stream.sil.at/pdknoppix/
This disk boots fine on my PC laptop, but I find a few things missing: Jack, PDP and PiDiP to name a few. Maybe if "eof" would like to get in touch, the mission could be continued?
Did I mention that, at 202 Mb, you can fit it on a mini-CD? How horribly cute! ;-)
best, D.
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m wrote:
as you already mentioned there are some live linux cds around including pd (but as far as I remember withoud pdp, pidip... ) like dynebolic, unofficial demudi live cds ..
Dynebolic should have PDP very soon.
what kind of things/tools are you missing in this kind of basic and
(somehow) limited setup to continue the mission.?
a few things...
essential: ALSA + Jack [what is it using now? real OSS or emulation?] PDP PiDiP
not sure if there are already present, but very much necessary: Zexy IEMlibs 1,2,mp3,t3 cyclone/maxlib bonk~ fiddle~ OSC maybe some of Yves' fun stuff like Grid...
optional: Low Latency kernel w/capabilities LADPSA plugins Jack-Rack Qjackconnect Qjackctl a sound editor like Rezound for quick sample manipulation or maybe even Ardour, if you dare...
but these last things really get the project much closer to Guenter's unofficial DeMuDi CD. depends on how big you dream for a tiny little 3" CD.
but the externals and enhanced audio functionality really expand the project more, without too much trouble and space I hope. maybe I will play around with it myself as well, and see how it goes.
d.
Hi Friends, About this subject of Live CD bootable, APO33 : http://www.apo33.org http://www.apo33.org/raccorps http://radio.apo33.org are developping a crazy live audio cd bootable based on mandrake 9.2 (soon X), here all the softs you could find in it. We work with the audio package from mandrake contribs, main and updates and a lot with audio package from thacs : http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound9.2.html We asked him to put most of the librairies available for pd, he actually working for gripd, pdp, maxlib, pidip and vasp!! If you want to get in touch, just to help for this packages, that's could be great!! He make a really good job! With his work mandrake sounds now like the most interesting distro for the audio !!!
Also, here the softs which available from APODIO live cd bootable The .iso will be available during this month, I will keep you update for date
thanks
juto
APODIO 0.9 : software on the CD :
AUDIO :
Puredata 0.37.1 - jack (with librairies compiled from Thacs) JMAX Ardour Audacity Ceres DAP Ecamegapedal Ecasound Freqtweak Gnome-sound-Recorder Mhwavedit Rezound Sweep Xsox Abc éditeur muse Rosegarden Soundtracker Jack qjackctl Jamin Ladcca Mplayer RealPlayer VideoLanClient Xmms Zinf Gcombust Grip K3b Gstreamer Icecast 1 & 2 Muse Gnomeeting Rat Ices AlsaModularSynth Beast ZynAddSubFx Didgeridoo Freebirth Galan Hydrogen Qsynth : synthétiseur midi SpiralSynthModular TerminatorX Alsamixergui Aumix Ecasignalview LADSPA Vkeybd Wav to Mp3 Wav to Ogg Ogg to wav Mp3 to ogg
others softs :
mozilla dillo konqueror Nautilus Mldonkey client Gftp LinNeighborhood Gedit Kwrite ark
- others utilities for configuration, cpu and others controls tools
Hello Juto,
juto aviten wrote:
Hi Friends, About this subject of Live CD bootable, APO33 : http://www.apo33.org http://www.apo33.org/raccorps http://radio.apo33.org are developping a crazy live audio cd bootable based on mandrake 9.2 (soon X)
Since the basis of this is Mandrake, would it be possible to make a PPC version of the disk as well? I think that would set your project head and shoulders above the *several* other audio live CDs which exist on for PC architecture.
d.
derek holzer wrote:
Hello Juto,
juto aviten wrote:
Hi Friends, About this subject of Live CD bootable, APO33 : http://www.apo33.org http://www.apo33.org/raccorps http://radio.apo33.org are developping a crazy live audio cd bootable based on mandrake 9.2 (soon X)
Since the basis of this is Mandrake, would it be possible to make a PPC version of the disk as well? I think that would set your project head and shoulders above the *several* other audio live CDs which exist on for PC architecture.
d.
I have some mac under mandrake 9.1, but mandrake didn't update to 9.2 and the ftp for urpmi are not well set up and there's a lot of problems to download and install most of this softs. But if you're interested we could work on this issue! I was a mac user for years and now I feel like a PC user definetly!!! But I know there's a lot of musicians to convert !! hard job when you know they paid their powerbookG4 2500 or 4500 euros!!
juto
hi again,
juto aviten wrote:
I was a mac user for years and now I feel like a PC user definetly!!! But I know there's a lot of musicians to convert !! hard job when you know they paid their powerbookG4 2500 or 4500 euros!!
I haven't found it that hard. Just show them PDP/PiDiP. Then tell them that it's free. Then tell them how incredibly difficult it is to get a half-way working version of them on their Mac. Then show them how well it works under Linux. Some time next month, I may well be giving a workshop about installing Gentoo on eight TiBooks.
d.
finally I did a quick remaster based knoppix 3.3 with debian packaged pd-0.37, gem, pdp, pidip, cyclone, osc ... and knoppix alsa-drivers
defaults to alsa, but jack is onboard too ( but since I am quite new to it with a possible weird setup)
hope it is useful - you still find it here http://stream.sil.at/pdknoppix/
m.
Is there something like this available for Mac/PPC... I have a powerbook but would love to try out PD on Linux to see what the performance difference is like.
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On 14-Mar-04, at 6:46 AM, m wrote:
finally I did a quick remaster based knoppix 3.3 with debian packaged pd-0.37, gem, pdp, pidip, cyclone, osc ... and knoppix alsa-drivers
defaults to alsa, but jack is onboard too ( but since I am quite new to it with a possible weird setup)
hope it is useful - you still find it here http://stream.sil.at/pdknoppix/
m.
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I agree that a piece of god Linux audio propaganda is necessary for PPC computers.
In a previous post on this thread, I mentioned a few live CDs for PPC. Two are versions of Knoppix, and then of course there are the Gentoo live CDs used for installing. All of them are *not* specialized for audio, but a clever person might be able to remaster them. In another post on this thread, I asked the folks making the Mandrake live PD CD if they had plans to make a PPC version, as Mandrake has packages available for PPC architecture. Check the archive of the last week for details.
best, d.
Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote:
Is there something like this available for Mac/PPC... I have a powerbook but would love to try out PD on Linux to see what the performance difference is like.
Selon derek holzer derek@x-i.net:
I agree that a piece of god Linux audio propaganda is necessary for PPC computers.
In a previous post on this thread, I mentioned a few live CDs for PPC. Two are versions of Knoppix, and then of course there are the Gentoo live CDs used for installing. All of them are *not* specialized for audio, but a clever person might be able to remaster them. In another post on this thread, I asked the folks making the Mandrake live PD CD if they had plans to make a PPC version, as Mandrake has packages available for PPC architecture. Check the archive of the last week for details.
Yes for sure Derek! It's on the agenda for us (as we have some mac under mandrake 9.2), we have a lot of hacking to do for that. As we also wait for mandrake to update to 9.2 for PPC, but when they will do it, that will be another step. Also the script we use to create mandrake live CD is not well ported for PPC... We are in touch with mandrake about their mandrake move... let's see!
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