hi all, i recently purchases an acer aspire one netbook, its running fedora 8
i installed pd=extended through yum and was ready to begin using..
for some reason it wouldnt create any of the pidip specific objects and on the irc a person asked me to create a pdp object and see what the error was, it was the follow:
/usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol: pdp_metro_setup pdp ... couldn't create
pure dyne willl not run on this machine. and i am desperate to get pd-extended running on this machine successfully...
i would try one of the nightly builds of pd-extended but i cant figure out which package i require, ia m inexperienced with nameing structures in linux...
any help greatly appreciated...
Paul Finn
Hmm, that's an odd one. Did you use the planetccrma packages? I
don't know how Nando built things really, it seems a file got missed.
I think you asked about this on #dataflow, did you find a solution?
Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based
distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc.
.hc
On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:36 PM, fín wrote:
hi all, i recently purchases an acer aspire one netbook, its running
fedora 8i installed pd=extended through yum and was ready to begin using..
for some reason it wouldnt create any of the pidip specific objects
and on the irc a person asked me to create a pdp object and see what
the error was, it was the follow:/usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_ linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol:
pdp_metro_setup pdp ... couldn't createpure dyne willl not run on this machine. and i am desperate to get
pd-extended running on this machine successfully...i would try one of the nightly builds of pd-extended but i cant
figure out which package i require, ia m inexperienced with nameing
structures in linux...any help greatly appreciated...
Paul Finn
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Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally
for machines to execute.
I've spent a long time on it now and have come to the conclusion that
it is dependancy related or a hardware problem relating to my netbook.
Either way I couldn't spend any more time trying solutions and so I
moved to fendora 10. It's yumming away at the moment.
Pure Dyne would have solved all my problems but unfortuatly it will
not run on my acer aspire. It's a known issue. I've downloaded ubuntu
studio also and may try that.
All I wanna do is make a ball move :(
Thanks though
Happy belated paddies day
~_.~*fine*~._~
On 18 Mar 2009, at 00:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
Hmm, that's an odd one. Did you use the planetccrma packages? I
don't know how Nando built things really, it seems a file got
missed. I think you asked about this on #dataflow, did you find a
solution?Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based
distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc..hc
On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:36 PM, fín wrote:
hi all, i recently purchases an acer aspire one netbook, its
running fedora 8i installed pd=extended through yum and was ready to begin using..
for some reason it wouldnt create any of the pidip specific objects
and on the irc a person asked me to create a pdp object and see
what the error was, it was the follow:/usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_ linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol:
pdp_metro_setup pdp ... couldn't createpure dyne willl not run on this machine. and i am desperate to get
pd-extended running on this machine successfully...i would try one of the nightly builds of pd-extended but i cant
figure out which package i require, ia m inexperienced with nameing
structures in linux...any help greatly appreciated...
Paul Finn
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Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally
for machines to execute.
- from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc.
.hc
pd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts with, or should if it has been packaged properly).
One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package each library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares of a huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to get "all externals working at once". Each package can be tested separately and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving bandwidth.
BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no pdp_metro_setup issue:
$ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro 0000f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup
So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug.
http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org http://puredyne.goto10.org
On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based
distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc. .hcpd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with
extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and
installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from
pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts
with, or should if it has been packaged properly).One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package each
library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares of a
huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to get "all
externals working at once". Each package can be tested separately
and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving bandwidth.
I think that's the way that Pd-extended should be packaged for Debian
too. The monolithic package is not a good design, but was easy to
do. We were talking a while back about merging efforts, I think it
would be great to revisit that discussion.
Then the next step would be getting those packages into Debian. It
seems Guenter has stopped updating his Debian packages, 'puredata' is
at 0.40.3, pd-externals is no longer in the repo, etc.
BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no
pdp_metro_setup issue:$ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro 0000f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup
So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug.
Yeah, on Fedora only though. I don't use Fedora at all so I am at a
loss. PDP works fine in Pd-extended on Ubuntu and Debian.
.hc
Claude
http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org http://puredyne.goto10.org
All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies,
one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better
language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne
The prognosis was meagative on my two recent fedora excursions, f8 and
f10. Pd would work fine but most extended specific obects couldn't be
created. I lost a lot of time figuring this out. Moved to ubuntu
today. Much happier now.
With this new tutorial manual there are a few total beginner things
that I've learned the hard way that could be included. There is no
reason not to consolidate info. Small links with basic info get lost
in most scene/communities I find. My two cents.
~_.~*fine*~._~
On 19 Mar 2009, at 00:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based
distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc. .hcpd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with
extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and
installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from
pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts
with, or should if it has been packaged properly).One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package
each library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares
of a huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to
get "all externals working at once". Each package can be tested
separately and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving
bandwidth.I think that's the way that Pd-extended should be packaged for
Debian too. The monolithic package is not a good design, but was
easy to do. We were talking a while back about merging efforts, I
think it would be great to revisit that discussion.Then the next step would be getting those packages into Debian. It
seems Guenter has stopped updating his Debian packages, 'puredata'
is at 0.40.3, pd-externals is no longer in the repo, etc.BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no
pdp_metro_setup issue:$ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro 0000f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup
So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug.
Yeah, on Fedora only though. I don't use Fedora at all so I am at a
loss. PDP works fine in Pd-extended on Ubuntu and Debian..hc
Claude
http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org http://puredyne.goto10.org
All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies,
one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a
better language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John
Donne
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