is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
at least i would like to update the netiquette to tell people that they are not supposed to add mailinglists to their social networks (well, this is my opinion at least)
f gamdr IOhannes
i don't think this happens intentional but it is an annoyance. is there a way to block that completely?
Am 30.11.2010 um 09:06 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig:
is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
at least i would like to update the netiquette to tell people that they are not supposed to add mailinglists to their social networks (well, this is my opinion at least)
f gamdr IOhannes
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Why not? Getting tired of viral social networks too...
Le 30/11/2010 09:06, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
at least i would like to update the netiquette to tell people that they are not supposed to add mailinglists to their social networks (well, this is my opinion at least)
f gamdr IOhannes
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It's a minor annoyance, but definitely bad form. Thin end of the wedge, slippery slope... blah, blah Always imagined they were bots anyway. If you behave like a bot expect to get a ban.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:06:56 +0100 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
at least i would like to update the netiquette to tell people that they are not supposed to add mailinglists to their social networks (well, this is my opinion at least)
f gamdr IOhannes
Andy Farnell wrote:
It's a minor annoyance, but definitely bad form. Thin end of the wedge, slippery slope... blah, blah Always imagined they were bots anyway. If you behave like a bot expect to get a ban.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:06:56 +0100 IOhannes m zmoelnigzmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
at least i would like to update the netiquette to tell people that they are not supposed to add mailinglists to their social networks (well, this is my opinion at least)
f gamdr IOhannes
Maybe 1st warning + ban, so that if in some way or another it is happening without the person knowing they get a chance to investigate?
Lorenzo
Am 30.11.2010 um 10:09 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton:
Maybe 1st warning + ban, so that if in some way or another it is happening without the person knowing they get a chance to investigate?
i'm sure IOhannes has much better things to do then manually issuing warnings. The invitations are sent by member@linkedin.com, just the reply-to adress is a subscribed one. how do they get to the mailinglist anyway?
m
I imagine there is a big button that says "Invite all your friends and colleagues", and when you click it, then LinkedIn imports your address book and starts working. Not something a warning would fix, as it only happens once. I would say block any emails coming from the linkedin.com domain. AFAIK no one uses it as an actual email service. That would fix the issue.
How do emails from unsubscribed addresses end up on the list anyways?
Derek
On 11/30/10 10:22 AM, Max wrote:
Am 30.11.2010 um 10:09 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton:
Maybe 1st warning + ban, so that if in some way or another it is happening without the person knowing they get a chance to investigate?
i'm sure IOhannes has much better things to do then manually issuing warnings. The invitations are sent bymember@linkedin.com, just the reply-to adress is a subscribed one. how do they get to the mailinglist anyway?
Since I just "joined" (that is, put my name in) Linkedin, a few days ago,
I went to the pd list archives to see if I was in the spammer category.
Unfortunately I was, but I don't really know how that happened. I chose to
invite nobody from my google mail list (I also find that annoying), so I
cannot explain how a mail presumably from me ended up here.
Resuming, I followed the steps *not* to send spam to my friends, and
apparently something was sent. I either messed up, or they abused my
account. Don't know about other cases, but if it happened to others as it
did to me, either a warning mail or a blockage from linkedin domain might
be better than banning someone for something he wasn't aware of.
Btw, if any personal contacts in this list got a linkedin mail from me,
could you tell me about it? I would like to know how often they use my
mail account :(
João
I imagine there is a big button that says "Invite all your friends and
colleagues", and when you click it, then LinkedIn imports your address
book and starts working. Not something a warning would fix, as it only
happens once. I would say block any emails coming from the linkedin.com
domain. AFAIK no one uses it as an actual email service. That would fix
the issue.How do emails from unsubscribed addresses end up on the list anyways?
Derek
On 11/30/10 10:22 AM, Max wrote:
Am 30.11.2010 um 10:09 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton:
Maybe 1st warning + ban, so that if in some way or another it is
happening without the person knowing they get a chance to investigate?i'm sure IOhannes has much better things to do then manually issuing
warnings. The invitations are sent bymember@linkedin.com, just the reply-to
adress is a subscribed one. how do they get to the mailinglist anyway?
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 09:06 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
Although I find it slightly annoying as well, I think immediately banning offenders of the netiquette is a bit harsh, isn't it?
Let's just ask people to take care not to send any invitations to the mailing list.
Roman
Of course. Mistakes by regulars. And whenever calling for harsh measures irony has in store that the next to transgress is yourself.
I haven't yet seen here those things that are plaguing some other lists; one time hit and run posts by bot subscribers to promote a new network.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:49:49 +0100 Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 09:06 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
Although I find it slightly annoying as well, I think immediately banning offenders of the netiquette is a bit harsh, isn't it?
Let's just ask people to take care not to send any invitations to the mailing list.
Roman
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I think a ban for those that start religious or political flamewars would be far more appropriate ;-)
D.
On 11/30/10 11:46 AM, Andy Farnell wrote:
Of course. Mistakes by regulars. And whenever calling for harsh measures irony has in store that the next to transgress is yourself.
Yeah. Scumbags. Banning's to good for 'em!
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:14:43 +0100 Derek Holzer derek@umatic.nl wrote:
I think a ban for those that start religious or political flamewars would be far more appropriate ;-)
D.
On 11/30/10 11:46 AM, Andy Farnell wrote:
Of course. Mistakes by regulars. And whenever calling for harsh measures irony has in store that the next to transgress is yourself.
-- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 100: "It is quite possible"
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Banning is good since it makes social network's users aware of what's really behind it, automated processes responding to automated processes.
Le 30/11/2010 10:49, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 09:06 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
is it ok, if i ban all members of this list that are trying to invite Pd-list to LinkedIn or any other social network site?
Although I find it slightly annoying as well, I think immediately banning offenders of the netiquette is a bit harsh, isn't it?
Let's just ask people to take care not to send any invitations to the mailing list.
Roman
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