Thanks. I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in 0.43.1-beta 20120223.

However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now. I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general English menu and interfaces. Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies. So languages selectable is the ideal.

Cheers,

Sei Matsumura

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2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

That's great! I wish I could read it.  I love the idea of including the interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd.  Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.

To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/

.hc

On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

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Dear list,

The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan. The title is "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data". This book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type tutorials. If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd world, please recommend this book.

Web site (Japanese) "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data" http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#mor...

I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.

best wishes,

Sei Matsumura

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Le 2012-02-24 à 16:56:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from the terminal. This is what I do for testing the language support: $ export LANG=en $ /usr/bin/pd-extended

Just setting the 2-letter language code is usually wrong, because most people want to also have the country code and encoding as well. For example :

export LANG=fr_CA.utf8

selects French, Canada and Unicode UTF-8 all at once.

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On 2012-02-24 23:11, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

Just setting the 2-letter language code is usually wrong, because most people want to also have the country code and encoding as well. For example :

export LANG=fr_CA.utf8

selects French, Canada and Unicode UTF-8 all at once.

... unless you've done something like

export LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 or export LC_ALL=C

when no one was looking ;-)

marmosets, Bryan

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 22:56, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

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I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese translation :-).  I'll be sure to update it one last time before the final release, so you can test it in a real build.

I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that is something that the OS should handle.  So anyone who set their system language to English will get Pd-extended in English.  For those who want some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know of, and how you do it varies on each OS.  If someone wants to code this for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.

If you want the *whole* app to change language, I'm pretty sure it will need to be restarted. Then I guess an equivalent of "export LANG" can be issued from tcl (and/or C?) at startup. (Could someone with the knowledge confirm/correct this plz?) If it's enough to change the translatable strings' language, we already have the "_" function in tcl. I have no idea how it goes on the C side. Then I guess instead of restarting, it's possible to redraw the GUI (?). I'd be happy to code into this when I know more.

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On 02/25/2012 11:59 AM, András Murányi wrote:

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 22:56, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:

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I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese translation :-). I'll be sure to update it one last time before the final release, so you can test it in a real build.

I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that is something that the OS should handle. So anyone who set their system language to English will get Pd-extended in English. For those who want some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know of, and how you do it varies on each OS. If someone wants to code this for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.

If you want the *whole* app to change language, I'm pretty sure it will need to be restarted. Then I guess an equivalent of "export LANG" can be issued from tcl (and/or C?) at startup. (Could someone with the knowledge confirm/correct this plz?) If it's enough to change the translatable strings' language, we already have the "_" function in tcl. I have no idea how it goes on the C side. Then I guess instead of restarting, it's possible to redraw the GUI (?). I'd be happy to code into this when I know more.

András

What I meant by a mix of languages is a mix of apps on a given system running in different languages, i.e. Thunderbird in Japanese, Pd in English. Perhaps this could be handled by a plugin? I don't know all the possible ways of getting Tcl to change the language, but I do know that 'export LANG=ja' works.

.hc

...what I understood was a way to change the UI language from within pd, like a dropdown menu in preferences. Is that what you meant?

András

Thank you for the precise instruction. I could trace this but could not make Pd-extended0.43.app in the end. I can run "pd" unix file in "pd-extended/src" folder and see ja.msg is working partly, not all functions are working correctly like Bang button object is missing, Vslider is missing, etc. I need to check all the Japanese translated menu and indication in all the properties windows. Do I have to do any other steps for building Pd-extended0.43.app?

I already check "INSTALL.txt" in pd-extended folder and this article but could not accomplish it. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended

Best,

Sei Matsumura

sei@low-tech-ism.com

2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese translation :-). I'll be sure to update it one last time before the final release, so you can test it in a real build.

I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that is something that the OS should handle. So anyone who set their system language to English will get Pd-extended in English. For those who want some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know of, and how you do it varies on each OS. If someone wants to code this for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.

For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from the terminal. This is what I do for testing the language support:

$ export LANG=en $ /usr/bin/pd-extended

or on Mac OS X:

$ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd.

.hc

On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

...

Thanks. I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in 0.43.1-beta 20120223.

However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now. I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general English menu and interfaces. Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies. So languages selectable is the ideal.

Cheers,

Sei Matsumura

__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Seiichiro Matsumura

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2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

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That's great! I wish I could read it. I love the idea of including the interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd. Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.

To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/

.hc

On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

...

Dear list,

The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan. The title is "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data". This book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type tutorials. If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd world, please recommend this book.

Web site (Japanese) "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data" http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#mor...

I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.

best wishes,

Sei Matsumura

-- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Seiichiro Matsumura, Ph.D.

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Glad it worked out. About handling the translations, I don't really have a good sense of who will want to use it in their native language and who in English. My guess is that the more technical people will be using Pd in English, and the less technical would use Pd in their native language.

Based on that guess, then the idea would be to make it use the translations by default, then provide instructions for the more technical people to switch to English.

You just demonstrated a simple yet effective way to force Pd in English on any system: remove the translation files in the po/ folder, i.e. ja.msg, etc.

.hc

On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

Hi Hans,

Sorry, I misread your instruction. It was for how to make ja.msg file from ja.po file then to import it to Pd-extended0.43.app downloaded from nightly build. (I thought I needed to build app by myself.) Now, I can run Pd-extended0.43.1.app with Japanese UI. (see attached pic.) This is amazing! I can do fully checking.

BTW, this is just a suggestion about language mode. If it is difficult to put language select pull-down menu in preferences, how is about not including all the language files in po folder of Pd-extended.app as default? It means the default language is English and installing the other language ~.msg files are optional. Users can download the language ~.msg file and put it in Pd-extended.app/Contents/resources/po folder under the instruction as they want it. It is not difficult even for non-geek people. This is like OpenOffice language plug-in files style. How do you think?

Best,

Sei Matsumura

sei@low-tech-ism.com

2012年3月2日9:48 Seiichiro MATSUMURA sei@low-tech-ism.com:

...

Thank you for the precise instruction. I could trace this but could not make Pd-extended0.43.app in the end. I can run "pd" unix file in "pd-extended/src" folder and see ja.msg is working partly, not all functions are working correctly like Bang button object is missing, Vslider is missing, etc. I need to check all the Japanese translated menu and indication in all the properties windows. Do I have to do any other steps for building Pd-extended0.43.app?

I already check "INSTALL.txt" in pd-extended folder and this article but could not accomplish it. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended

Best,

Sei Matsumura

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2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

...

I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese translation :-). I'll be sure to update it one last time before the final release, so you can test it in a real build.

I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that is something that the OS should handle. So anyone who set their system language to English will get Pd-extended in English. For those who want some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know of, and how you do it varies on each OS. If someone wants to code this for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.

For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from the terminal. This is what I do for testing the language support:

$ export LANG=en $ /usr/bin/pd-extended

or on Mac OS X:

$ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd.

.hc

On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

...

Thanks. I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in 0.43.1-beta 20120223.

However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now. I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general English menu and interfaces. Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies. So languages selectable is the ideal.

Cheers,

Sei Matsumura

__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Seiichiro Matsumura

sei@low-tech-ism.com http://low-tech-ism.com/ __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/

2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

...

That's great! I wish I could read it. I love the idea of including the interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd. Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.

To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/

.hc

On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

...

Dear list,

The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan. The title is "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data". This book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type tutorials. If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd world, please recommend this book.

Web site (Japanese) "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data" http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#mor...

I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.

best wishes,

Sei Matsumura

-- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Seiichiro Matsumura, Ph.D.

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Hi Hans,

Based on that guess, then the idea would be to make it use the translations by default, then provide instructions for the more technical people to switch to English.

I see. That suggestion the other way round is reasonable.

You just demonstrated a simple yet effective way to force Pd in English on any system: remove the translation files in the po/ folder, i.e. ja.msg, etc.

It sounds a very nice solution, simple and easy. I tested it on OSX and it works quite fine, now. Thank you.

Is this way also working on Windows? Unfortunately I can't test this on Windows and Linux at here. I hope they would work fine too eventually.

In addition, I finished checking all parts of Japanese UI on OSX and I think no problems happening.

Best wishes,

Sei Matsumura

sei@low-tech-ism.com

2012年3月4日14:55 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

Glad it worked out. About handling the translations, I don't really have a good sense of who will want to use it in their native language and who in English. My guess is that the more technical people will be using Pd in English, and the less technical would use Pd in their native language.

Based on that guess, then the idea would be to make it use the translations by default, then provide instructions for the more technical people to switch to English.

You just demonstrated a simple yet effective way to force Pd in English on any system: remove the translation files in the po/ folder, i.e. ja.msg, etc.

.hc

On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

...

Hi Hans,

Sorry, I misread your instruction. It was for how to make ja.msg file from ja.po file then to import it to Pd-extended0.43.app downloaded from nightly build. (I thought I needed to build app by myself.) Now, I can run Pd-extended0.43.1.app with Japanese UI. (see attached pic.) This is amazing! I can do fully checking.

BTW, this is just a suggestion about language mode. If it is difficult to put language select pull-down menu in preferences, how is about not including all the language files in po folder of Pd-extended.app as default? It means the default language is English and installing the other language ~.msg files are optional. Users can download the language ~.msg file and put it in Pd-extended.app/Contents/resources/po folder under the instruction as they want it. It is not difficult even for non-geek people. This is like OpenOffice language plug-in files style. How do you think?

Best,

Sei Matsumura

sei@low-tech-ism.com

2012年3月2日9:48 Seiichiro MATSUMURA sei@low-tech-ism.com:

...

Thank you for the precise instruction. I could trace this but could not make Pd-extended0.43.app in the end. I can run "pd" unix file in "pd-extended/src" folder and see ja.msg is working partly, not all functions are working correctly like Bang button object is missing, Vslider is missing, etc. I need to check all the Japanese translated menu and indication in all the properties windows. Do I have to do any other steps for building Pd-extended0.43.app?

I already check "INSTALL.txt" in pd-extended folder and this article but could not accomplish it. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended

Best,

Sei Matsumura

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2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

...

I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese translation :-). I'll be sure to update it one last time before the final release, so you can test it in a real build.

I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that is something that the OS should handle. So anyone who set their system language to English will get Pd-extended in English. For those who want some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know of, and how you do it varies on each OS. If someone wants to code this for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.

For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from the terminal. This is what I do for testing the language support:

$ export LANG=en $ /usr/bin/pd-extended

or on Mac OS X:

$ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd.

.hc

On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

...

Thanks. I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in 0.43.1-beta 20120223.

However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now. I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general English menu and interfaces. Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies. So languages selectable is the ideal.

Cheers,

Sei Matsumura

__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Seiichiro Matsumura

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2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

...

That's great! I wish I could read it. I love the idea of including the interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd. Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.

To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/

.hc

On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Dear list, > > The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be > published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan. > The title is "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data". This > book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type > tutorials. > If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd > world, please recommend this book. > > Web site (Japanese) > "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data" > http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#mor... > > I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan. > > best wishes, > > Sei Matsumura > > -- > __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ > Seiichiro Matsumura, Ph.D. > > Tokyo University of Technology > School of Design > Associate Professor > > http://low-tech-ism.com/ > __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-announce mailing list > Pd-announce@iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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On 2012-03-04 06:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

You just demonstrated a simple yet effective way to force Pd in English on any system: remove the translation files in the po/ folder, i.e. ja.msg, etc.

i just wanted to point out (the quite obvious): this method won't work if multiple users share the same installation of Pd. it also won't work, if the "more technical people" don't have root access on the machine they work on (i'm still reluctant to give in to the w95 "personal" computer mood, where everybody that has access to the screen (or less) is also granted admin priviliges)

fgmasdr IOhannes

So in a wonderfully circular twist: Any chance of an English ebook translation (preferably free, of course)? Maybe even just the interviews, I admit I'm curious.

Well done, good work.

Julian

On 24 February 2012 09:25, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:

Hi,

wonderful! I really like the cover, too.

I just found that BNN International also has an Englisch announcement here:

http://bnn-international.blogspot.com/2012/02/this-is-basic-how-to-book-abou...

All the best,

Frank

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:38:00PM +0900, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

...

Dear list,

The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan. The title is "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data". This book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type tutorials. If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd world, please recommend this book.

Web site (Japanese) "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data"

http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#mor...

...

I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.

best wishes,

Sei Matsumura

-- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Seiichiro Matsumura, Ph.D.

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You offering? Or do I have to wait for that fantasy academia post.

On 24 February 2012 17:44, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:

Le 2012-02-24 à 10:53:00, Julian Brooks a écrit :

So in a wonderfully circular twist: Any chance of an English ebook

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translation (preferably free, of course)?

Why aim for just free, when you can aim for getting paid to read it.

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Thank you. I will tell your comment to editorial designers, they would be very happy. Your daughter might become a first translator? Let's wait for 6 years.

chao,

Sei Matsumura

2012年2月25日6:39 Richie Cyngler glitchpop@gmail.com:

I agree, really beautiful cover! another +1 for wanting to read it too, my daughter is learning Japanese at school, so maybe in six years she can have a go at translating it (she's learning Pd in English at home xD) _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Hi,

Thank you for many people having curiosity to this "Pd Recipe Book" even it is written in Japanese. I feel truly honored :) All the contents including articles, interviews, diagrams, etc. are officially controlled under copyrights of the author and the publisher. So I am afraid I can not handle it only by myself, now. If any English publishers officially give any offers of translation for the publication, it is welcome. However, I know there are so many excellent English texts about Pd.

Cheers,

Sei Matsumura

2012年2月25日6:39 Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca:

Le 2012-02-24 à 20:56:00, Julian Brooks a écrit :

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On 24 February 2012 17:44, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:

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Le 2012-02-24 à 10:53:00, Julian Brooks a écrit :

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So in a wonderfully circular twist: Any chance of an English ebook translation (preferably free, of course)?

Why aim for just free, when you can aim for getting paid to read it.

You offering?  Or do I have to wait for that fantasy academia post.

No, I'm just thinking that you could apply as a reviewing consultant for the English translation of the book.

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