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On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 5:23 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
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Today's Topics:
- Re: How does vline~ work under the hood? (Jonathan Wilkes)
- Re: How does vline~ work under the hood? (Matt Barber)
- Re: How does vline~ work under the hood? (Jonathan Wilkes)
Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:08:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com To: Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How does vline~ work under the hood? Message-ID: 655463103.1338937.1443305296609.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Frank,The [1, 0 50( message will almost always trigger differentoutput when fed to [line~] and [vline~]. The only exceptionis when the ramp ends exactly on a block boundary--otherwise [line~] will stretch the final part of the ramp tothe block boundary.
In fact, I'm willing to bet that if visualized this [line~]quantization to new users at the outset they'd almostalways use [vline~]. After all, who wants imperfect lines? :) -Jonathan
On Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:57 PM, Frank Barknecht <fbar@footils.org> wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 11:24:40PM +0900, i go bananas wrote:
In that case, maybe an even simpler question:
What is the difference between sending a [1, 0 50( message to vline as opposed to line ?
There will only be a difference in how line~ and vline~ react to this message when the message was triggered by something with a "clock" inside. These kinds of messages are called clock-delayed messages.
Clock-delayed messages originate in objects like [metro] or [delay] or [qlist]. Messages that originate for example in mouse clicks are not clock-delayed (i.e. if you click a [bng] or move a slider).
vline~ evaluates clock delayed message with high, sub-sample timing accuracy. line~ quantizes even clock delayed messages to block-boundaries or to 64 samples, I'm not sure ATM which it is. But line~ quantizes.
So depending on when the message was issued any by what, the ramp generators may act the same or different.
Try delaying the message:
[bang( | [delay 0.3] | [1. 0 50( | [line~ or vline~] | [print~]
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