The same happens to me, with pd-0.47-1 mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.5

i didn't even think of it as an issue, but as never-been-supported but yes very annoying

2017-09-13 14:56 GMT+02:00 Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at:

I had the same problem on win 10.

Hrvoje Radnic http://soundcloud.com/sumovi-protiv-valova 00385(0)915225162 <+385%2091%20522%205162>

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*From:* Max abonnements@revolwear.com *To:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [PD] trouble with pd-0.48-0 and multiple screens

What OS?

On 2017년 09월 13일 02:25, Ali Momeni wrote:

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Hello all,

is anyone else using 0.48 with multiple screens and multiple desktops?

i'm having a very difficult time using pd because the windows for subpatches that I open keep jumping to random places mostly off the screen on the "main" screen; it doesn't seem to happen when i click on things even; total nightmare!

has anyone seen this strange jumping window behavior and is anyone aware of a workaround?

thanks!

ali

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Hi Ali

On Mit, 2017-09-13 at 11:03 -0400, Ali Momeni wrote:

I'm using MacOS 10.12.6

I'm impressed that so many pd versions and platforms have this issue. It's a very difficult problem to deal with; Pd is essentially unusable with multiple screens.

I'm a regular multi-screen user and didn't encounter problems.

Does anyone have an intuition of how Pd manages to break the OS's window management?

Can you elaborate some more? I don't really understand the difference between what you expect and what you experience.

Anything to look into?

Can you describe an exact example of what you do, what you expect and what actually happens?

The canvas positions are saved with the patch and I haven't experienced any inconsistencies with that. But I imagine you can trick it into doing funny things when you save a position that is non-existent when you open the patch again. Let's say you have the second screen right of the first screen, then any canvas put there will have position values bigger than your first screen. I actually don't know what happens when you open that patch with a single-screen desktop. My window manager tries to place it in the nearest free screen space from top left.

Roman

Roman, for me it happens when i try to open (again) a pd-subpatch that i previously placed on the second monitor (on the left of the main monitor) : instead of appearing in its previous position, the window appears outside the screen (on the right of the right screen), so you can't see it, drag it back... Yes Nicolas, I experienced this with the "additional" monitor on the left, so subpatches should probably have negative coordinates.

Hope this gives a clue to solve this, patching on two monitors is nice for big patches...

all best

raphaël

2017-09-14 9:05 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Montgermont list@nimon.org:

IIRC, the problem is happening more when you have your second monitor on the left / main monitor on the right? It must have something to do with a negative x position. What i usually experienced is a problem when working on the same patch with someone with two monitors, main monitor on the left and for me main monitor on right. The patch appears on the far right of the right screen - impossible to see or edit. The workaround is to unplug the second screen, the patch appears, and save it to this new position. n

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Le 14/09/2017 à 08:45, Roman Haefeli a écrit :

Hi Ali

On Mit, 2017-09-13 at 11:03 -0400, Ali Momeni wrote:

I'm using MacOS 10.12.6

I'm impressed that so many pd versions and platforms have this issue. It's a very difficult problem to deal with; Pd is essentially unusable with multiple screens.

I'm a regular multi-screen user and didn't encounter problems.

Does anyone have an intuition of how Pd manages to break the OS's window management?

Can you elaborate some more? I don't really understand the difference between what you expect and what you experience.

Anything to look into?

Can you describe an exact example of what you do, what you expect and what actually happens?

The canvas positions are saved with the patch and I haven't experienced any inconsistencies with that. But I imagine you can trick it into doing funny things when you save a position that is non-existent when you open the patch again. Let's say you have the second screen right of the first screen, then any canvas put there will have position values bigger than your first screen. I actually don't know what happens when you open that patch with a single-screen desktop. My window manager tries to place it in the nearest free screen space from top left.

Roman

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