Hans, list,
I was thrilled to hear that delay objects and sqrt~ objects were fixed for rc3. While it seems the delay objects are fine, when I am doing my spectral/vocoding work, pd will freeze and lock up my whole machine
- I don't hear the cpu go up or anything, everything just stops
responding entirely. My only choice is to restart. I am using the rc3 for Ubuntu Edgy, I think, on Ubuntu Studio Feisty 7.04
I am having a hard time narrowing it down to a specific object/issue. I have attached my specgate~ gop which causes the crash every time within about 10 seconds. Could other linux or pd-ext users please test this? I can't get any crash logs it seems because the whole computer locks up and becomes unresponsive - a rather nasty bug. I don't see anything in the terminal even with -verbose.
It shouldn't be with the gui objects because i have many others that work totally fine. My vocoding abstraction produces the same lock-up, but not as quickly it seems. So I suspect it is either with vectral~ (from cyclone) or the q8_sqrt~ object. I cannot be sure though because most of the time it crashes before I can change anything. I am not so proficient at text editing pd patches :)
I am still relatively new to linux so if anyone knows a way to reclaim the machine when X stops responding and won't let you switch to other terminals or ctrl-alt-backspace, let me know. Maybe I could get some better info then and save myself a couple minutes from having to restart.
Kevin
OK - I finally got the patch open and removed the vectral~ part. Played with it for about 20 minutes and no crash. It seems that is what is causing the problem insofar as I can tell because with vectral~, it crashes almost immediately. My reasoning could be flawed here though? Hans, I know you mentioned to me that the fix you did to get del/sqrt working had to do with vectorization... does vectral~ then need a fix for that reason? It is from the cyclone lib, and for what it's worth is included standard in pd >=.40
It's an important component for spectral work because it allows attack/release on the bins, making a much smoother and natural sounding effect for vocoding, gating, and other fft-based transformation. I am not a C programmer, but let me know if I can help in any other way.
Kevin
Hello all.
I have filmmaker friend who is writing an article that deals with the term 'cinematic' in reference to music. He's looking for definitions of "cinematic" as a description of music, and any other relevant information.
I figured there might be a few people here that can point me/us in the right direction.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated! (Websites, books, articles etc)
Thanks!
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Jared
jared a écrit :
Hello all.
I have filmmaker friend who is writing an article that deals with the term 'cinematic' in reference to music. He's looking for definitions of "cinematic" as a description of music, and any other relevant information.
I figured there might be a few people here that can point me/us in the right direction.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated! (Websites, books, articles etc)
Thanks!
:D
Hello, you might be interested by cinematic orchestra.
Find out about vectral~? Max-msp documentation and google treachery. I was looking for spectral attack/release... About it being included in Pd vanilla >=.40? I guess I just opened my patches there and, lo and behold, the object created and worked with no libs loaded! I guess there was a decision somewhere to include some or all of the cyclone objects. I am not a part of the dev community though, so it is speculation :)
It's really one of my favorite objects though, it makes fft work sound much more elegant and beautiful.
Kevin
On 6/25/07, Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 25/06/2007, at 20.51, Kevin McCoy wrote:
and for what it's worth is included standard in pd >=.40
Nice find. Diff'ing the source or how did you find out about it, if i may ask?
vectral~ is from cyclone, so it aims to be a clone of Max/MSP's
vectral~. It is in need of a help patch, anyone want to create one?
Submit it to the patch tracker, and I'll check it in.
.hc
On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Kevin McCoy wrote:
Find out about vectral~? Max-msp documentation and google treachery. I was looking for spectral attack/release... About it being included in Pd vanilla >=.40? I guess I just opened my patches there and, lo and behold, the object created and worked with no libs loaded! I guess there was a decision somewhere to include some or all of the cyclone objects. I am not a part of the dev community though, so it is speculation :)
It's really one of my favorite objects though, it makes fft work sound much more elegant and beautiful.
Kevin
On 6/25/07, Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 25/06/2007, at 20.51, Kevin McCoy wrote:
and for what it's worth is included standard in pd >=.40
Nice find. Diff'ing the source or how did you find out about it, if i may ask?
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it doesn't crash here:
0.40.2-extended on OSX10.4.8 PPC
[vectral~] creates fine, no crash, but [>~ ] just above it does not,
and I can't find it in any of the help files - do you mean [max~ ]?
simon
On 26 Jun 2007, at 4:51 AM, Kevin McCoy wrote:
OK - I finally got the patch open and removed the vectral~ part. Played with it for about 20 minutes and no crash. It seems that is what is causing the problem insofar as I can tell because with vectral~, it crashes almost immediately.
Oh sorry, [>~] is from zexy.. it outputs a binary signal, either a 1 or 0 voltage. Handy for gating if you can use attack/release afterward.. does that help? My other patch, a vocoder, did not use this object but still crashed after a few minutes - the common object is vectral~.
Kevin
On 6/26/07, simon wise simonxwise@hotmail.com wrote:
it doesn't crash here:
0.40.2-extended on OSX10.4.8 PPC
[vectral~] creates fine, no crash, but [>~ ] just above it does not, and I can't find it in any of the help files - do you mean [max~ ]?
simon
On 26 Jun 2007, at 4:51 AM, Kevin McCoy wrote:
OK - I finally got the patch open and removed the vectral~ part. Played with it for about 20 minutes and no crash. It seems that is what is causing the problem insofar as I can tell because with vectral~, it crashes almost immediately.
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