Hello List,
In one of my project I have the same weird issue under both GNU/Linux (Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio, Manjaro Linux, Raspberry Pi OS) and Windows with the use of Pd Vanilla GOP. It's moving/jumping down/up (y axis only) when maximizing/minimizing its windows or changing its y size with the mouse. See here attached animated GIF file (zoom-out) realized with a RPi 400.
This is true for both zoom-out / zoom-in level. But its parent patch doesn't have this weird behavior. The x,y position of the GOP is not impacted at all.
Removing from its parent patch all the objects, inside + outside the GOP, doesn't change this weird behavior. Note that trying to reproduce this problem from scratch with very simple patches+GOP is not always giving the same result. Sometimes it's okay but sometimes not. Random behavior seems to be around.
Is there a known bug in Pd Vanilla or something wrong in the design of my patch regarding GOP?
Thank you. Best, Joe-Rouen
it could be that your object isn't in the position it looks like, but it's outside (above or below) the canvas, and it's only noticed when you click in it - although it should show slider panes in the window. You can try to move it downwards or upwards or check the patche's text file to see where exactly in the canvas it is.
or maybe not.
Hello List,
In one of my project I have the same weird issue under both GNU/Linux (Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio, Manjaro Linux, Raspberry Pi OS) and Windows with the use of Pd Vanilla GOP. It's moving/jumping down/up (y axis only) when maximizing/minimizing its windows or changing its y size with the mouse. See here attached animated GIF file (zoom-out) realized with a RPi 400.
This is true for both zoom-out / zoom-in level. But its parent patch doesn't have this weird behavior. The x,y position of the GOP is not impacted at all.
Removing from its parent patch all the objects, inside + outside the GOP, doesn't change this weird behavior. Note that trying to reproduce this problem from scratch with very simple patches+GOP is not always giving the same result. Sometimes it's okay but sometimes not. Random behavior seems to be around.
Is there a known bug in Pd Vanilla or something wrong in the design of my patch regarding GOP?
Thank you. Best, Joe-Rouen
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Hello João,
Thanks for your suggestions. The first ones were not working, always the same jumping GOP issue.
So I spent some more time on analyzing the 1845 lines of my patch.pd file helped by this unofficial PdFileFormat article https://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdFileFormat. After a lot of testing I found the culprit, it is #X restore... and any associated #X coords... lines.
In my case I was able to fix my issue by modifying the order of 3 lines.
- Original Pd patch file for Restore & Coords: BAD behavior
/#X coords 0 -1 1 1 853 280 1 995 265;// //#X restore 10 7 pd smpsk;// //#X coords 0 293.5 1 292.5 850 280 0;// //// / * Modified Pd patch file for RESTORE & COORDS: Now GOOD behavior /#X coords 0 293.5 1 292.5 850 280 0;// //#X coords 0 -1 1 1 853 280 1 995 265;// //#X restore 10 7 pd smpsk;/
It seems to be a question of properly sorting this 3 lines, here manually. But it should be the automatic task of the Pd engine to do it, isn't it!
I will open an Issue on Miller Puckette Git site.
Best, Joe = = = = = = = = = =
Le 25/02/2023 à 18:41, João Pais a écrit :
it could be that your object isn't in the position it looks like, but it's outside (above or below) the canvas, and it's only noticed when you click in it - although it should show slider panes in the window. You can try to move it downwards or upwards or check the patche's text file to see where exactly in the canvas it is.
or maybe not.
= = = = = = = = = =
Hello List,
In one of my project I have the same weird issue under both GNU/Linux (Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio, Manjaro Linux, Raspberry Pi OS) and Windows with the use of Pd Vanilla GOP. It's moving/jumping down/up (y axis only) when maximizing/minimizing its windows or changing its y size with the mouse. See here attached animated GIF file (zoom-out) realized with a RPi 400.
This is true for both zoom-out / zoom-in level. But its parent patch doesn't have this weird behavior. The x,y position of the GOP is not impacted at all.
Removing from its parent patch all the objects, inside + outside the GOP, doesn't change this weird behavior. Note that trying to reproduce this problem from scratch with very simple patches+GOP is not always giving the same result. Sometimes it's okay but sometimes not. Random behavior seems to be around.
Is there a known bug in Pd Vanilla or something wrong in the design of my patch regarding GOP?
Thank you. Best, Joe-Rouen
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without going to see the meaning of all coords parameters or how it's applied in the file: if both coords statements refer to the same canvas, wouldn't it be better to delete the first one?
Hello João,
Thanks for your suggestions. The first ones were not working, always the same jumping GOP issue.
So I spent some more time on analyzing the 1845 lines of my patch.pd file helped by this unofficial PdFileFormat article https://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdFileFormat. After a lot of testing I found the culprit, it is #X restore... and any associated #X coords... lines.
In my case I was able to fix my issue by modifying the order of 3 lines.
- Original Pd patch file for Restore & Coords: BAD behavior
/#X coords 0 -1 1 1 853 280 1 995 265;// //#X restore 10 7 pd smpsk;// //#X coords 0 293.5 1 292.5 850 280 0;// //// / * Modified Pd patch file for RESTORE & COORDS: Now GOOD behavior /#X coords 0 293.5 1 292.5 850 280 0;// //#X coords 0 -1 1 1 853 280 1 995 265;// //#X restore 10 7 pd smpsk;/
It seems to be a question of properly sorting this 3 lines, here manually. But it should be the automatic task of the Pd engine to do it, isn't it!
I will open an Issue on Miller Puckette Git site.
Best, Joe = = = = = = = = = =
Le 25/02/2023 à 18:41, João Pais a écrit :
it could be that your object isn't in the position it looks like, but it's outside (above or below) the canvas, and it's only noticed when you click in it - although it should show slider panes in the window. You can try to move it downwards or upwards or check the patche's text file to see where exactly in the canvas it is.
or maybe not.
= = = = = = = = = =
Hello List,
In one of my project I have the same weird issue under both GNU/Linux (Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio, Manjaro Linux, Raspberry Pi OS) and Windows with the use of Pd Vanilla GOP. It's moving/jumping down/up (y axis only) when maximizing/minimizing its windows or changing its y size with the mouse. See here attached animated GIF file (zoom-out) realized with a RPi 400.
This is true for both zoom-out / zoom-in level. But its parent patch doesn't have this weird behavior. The x,y position of the GOP is not impacted at all.
Removing from its parent patch all the objects, inside + outside the GOP, doesn't change this weird behavior. Note that trying to reproduce this problem from scratch with very simple patches+GOP is not always giving the same result. Sometimes it's okay but sometimes not. Random behavior seems to be around.
Is there a known bug in Pd Vanilla or something wrong in the design of my patch regarding GOP?
Thank you. Best, Joe-Rouen
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I'm neither a Pure Data specialist nor a developer. The best I can do, as a user, is to try thinking cleverly.
If I delete the 1st line on three from my reorganized Restore/Coords list, the result is still a good behavior of my GOP / patch. So it seems this Coords was also referring to this canvas. Why it was added if it's unnecessary ?
Best, = = = = = = = = = =
Le 26/02/2023 à 16:20, João Pais a écrit :
without going to see the meaning of all coords parameters or how it's applied in the file: if both coords statements refer to the same canvas, wouldn't it be better to delete the first one?
= = = = = = = = = =
Hello João,
Thanks for your suggestions. The first ones were not working, always the same jumping GOP issue.
So I spent some more time on analyzing the 1845 lines of my patch.pd file helped by this unofficial PdFileFormat article https://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdFileFormat. After a lot of testing I found the culprit, it is #X restore... and any associated #X coords... lines.
In my case I was able to fix my issue by modifying the order of 3 lines.
- Original Pd patch file for Restore & Coords: BAD behavior
/#X coords 0 -1 1 1 853 280 1 995 265;// //#X restore 10 7 pd smpsk;// //#X coords 0 293.5 1 292.5 850 280 0;// //// / * Modified Pd patch file for RESTORE & COORDS: Now GOOD behavior /#X coords 0 293.5 1 292.5 850 280 0;// //#X coords 0 -1 1 1 853 280 1 995 265;// //#X restore 10 7 pd smpsk;/
It seems to be a question of properly sorting this 3 lines, here manually. But it should be the automatic task of the Pd engine to do it, isn't it!
I will open an Issue on Miller Puckette Git site.
Best, Joe = = = = = = = = = =
Le 25/02/2023 à 18:41, João Pais a écrit :
it could be that your object isn't in the position it looks like, but it's outside (above or below) the canvas, and it's only noticed when you click in it - although it should show slider panes in the window. You can try to move it downwards or upwards or check the patche's text file to see where exactly in the canvas it is.
or maybe not.
= = = = = = = = = =
Hello List,
In one of my project I have the same weird issue under both GNU/Linux (Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio, Manjaro Linux, Raspberry Pi OS) and Windows with the use of Pd Vanilla GOP. It's moving/jumping down/up (y axis only) when maximizing/minimizing its windows or changing its y size with the mouse. See here attached animated GIF file (zoom-out) realized with a RPi 400.
This is true for both zoom-out / zoom-in level. But its parent patch doesn't have this weird behavior. The x,y position of the GOP is not impacted at all.
Removing from its parent patch all the objects, inside + outside the GOP, doesn't change this weird behavior. Note that trying to reproduce this problem from scratch with very simple patches+GOP is not always giving the same result. Sometimes it's okay but sometimes not. Random behavior seems to be around.
Is there a known bug in Pd Vanilla or something wrong in the design of my patch regarding GOP?
Thank you. Best, Joe-Rouen
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