Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly.
My idea is this: One computer, several keyboards and mouses connected to this same one computer, shares a Pd window, patching together. Could be something that could be interesting to do as live performance/collaboration... maybe. Just wanted to share this idea - and see if it´s already been done something like this..
Guess the technical side of it is more to get several keyboards/mouses to run in parallell with unique "id"s. Probably there exists a really easy solution to this.
I am not directly planning to do this, but I am curious anyway, if someone can elaborate on this idea then I am happy to listen..!? (I know there are some web-interfaced Pd projects (Purée Data?) but this idea is more simple, just to use one computer with several users/patchers.)
All the best, Björn Eriksson
hello,
it should be possible with [hid] but it would require to make an interface for sending internal messages, and drawing several custom cursors. Graphically I guess that the patcher would have to be made with another tool kit than tcltk by using a library like tkinter (already available), or even better (I guess) with a gtk or a qt frontend external. Another solution would be about hacking Gem or gridflow for using multiple mouses, I don't know if it's possible.
Colet Patrice
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De: "Björn Eriksson" miulew@gmail.com À: "Pd - list" pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Dimanche 19 Août 2012 18:12:49 Objet: [PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?
Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly.
My idea is this: One computer, several keyboards and mouses connected to this same one computer, shares a Pd window, patching together. Could be something that could be interesting to do as live performance/collaboration... maybe. Just wanted to share this idea - and see if it´s already been done something like this..
Guess the technical side of it is more to get several keyboards/mouses to run in parallell with unique "id"s. Probably there exists a really easy solution to this.
I am not directly planning to do this, but I am curious anyway, if someone can elaborate on this idea then I am happy to listen..!? (I know there are some web-interfaced Pd projects (Purée Data?) but this idea is more simple, just to use one computer with several users/patchers.)
All the best, Björn Eriksson
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On 2012-08-19 18:12, Björn Eriksson wrote:
Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly.
have you looked at Pd-graz' "blind date"[1]? originally we used a multi-keyboard/multi-mouse setup, but eventually made a software-based client/server solution originally called "multipd" and later renamed to "peer data". it was presented at the pd~con in montreal ("Patching Music Together:collaborative live coding in PureData"[2]).
i hope to give a workshop on that in november in mexico city.
fgmasdr IOhannes
[1] http://pd-graz.mur.at/blind-date [2] http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/dissertation/literature/bibliography...
Thanks Patrice and Iohannes for the replies on this!
Great pointers and clues!! I didn´t know about "blind date"/"peer data" projects before! Very interesting! I get the image of weaving when thinking of this. I like the concept of patching together. Like in music/sound improvisation I guess it becomes rather important "to listen" and wait the steps of the co-players/co-patchers - and follow and do contrasting things... etcetera...
Iohannes, let us know at the list how things proceed around this!
/// Another related idea/concept I have been thinking on is weaving - sortof matrix - like you have a dynamic matrix where each patcher can work in different areas of the matrix, that is in some defined way constituted so changes in one part of the matrix is affecting other parts. . Like a weaving - if you put in new threads things change in the overall structure... and if you are tearing in some parts - stretching etcetera - things change in the overall perspective. ////
(sorry to disturb the thread with this new perspective - but just couldn´t help it as the idea was triggered to be released when thinking on the other things in this thread)
All the best, Björn Eriksson
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.atwrote:
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Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly.
have you looked at Pd-graz' "blind date"[1]? originally we used a multi-keyboard/multi-mouse setup, but eventually made a software-based client/server solution originally called "multipd" and later renamed to "peer data". it was presented at the pd~con in montreal ("Patching Music Together:collaborative live coding in PureData"[2]).
i hope to give a workshop on that in november in mexico city.
fgmasdr IOhannes
[1] http://pd-graz.mur.at/blind-date [2]
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