Hi, I am new on this list. I tried to find some informations about syncing PD and Jack transport/BPM in the archive list but I am not satisfied :D I am making an Audio sequencer with PD, and I would like to use it with other linux softwares (seq24, hydrogens, freewheeling,...). So I need to synchronise PD and Jack with MIDI or OSC; I saw on the archive list some module like midirealtimein but it doesn't seems to work for me. Only receive zeros. Today I am trying to use jack.tools, to synchronise with OSC (jack.osc). I can send /start /stop messages, but I don't understand how I can send transport informations, bpm ...
Can you help me / give me some informations ? Thank you for your help cheers,
Erwan
i once write a small external to query jacktransport ... maybe it is useful for your purposes?
it is in the pd cvs under externals/tb/jacktransport
best, tim
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 13:20 +0200, Mysth-R wrote:
Hi, I am new on this list. I tried to find some informations about syncing PD and Jack transport/BPM in the archive list but I am not satisfied :D I am making an Audio sequencer with PD, and I would like to use it with other linux softwares (seq24, hydrogens, freewheeling,...). So I need to synchronise PD and Jack with MIDI or OSC; I saw on the archive list some module like midirealtimein but it doesn't seems to work for me. Only receive zeros. Today I am trying to use jack.tools, to synchronise with OSC ( jack.osc). I can send /start /stop messages, but I don't understand how I can send transport informations, bpm ...
Can you help me / give me some informations ? Thank you for your help cheers,
Erwan
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Thank you for this external. It works and it is very usefull, but I would like something more : control the BPM value. In your programs, what is the effect of sending a bang to jack_transport ? (I saw this in the help dialog)
Any more suggestions ? :)
2007/9/29, Tim Blechmann tim@klingt.org:
i once write a small external to query jacktransport ... maybe it is useful for your purposes?
it is in the pd cvs under externals/tb/jacktransport
best, tim
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 13:20 +0200, Mysth-R wrote:
Hi, I am new on this list. I tried to find some informations about syncing PD and Jack transport/BPM in the archive list but I am not satisfied :D I am making an Audio sequencer with PD, and I would like to use it with other linux softwares (seq24, hydrogens, freewheeling,...). So I need to synchronise PD and Jack with MIDI or OSC; I saw on the archive list some module like midirealtimein but it doesn't seems to work for me. Only receive zeros. Today I am trying to use jack.tools, to synchronise with OSC ( jack.osc). I can send /start /stop messages, but I don't understand how I can send transport informations, bpm ...
Can you help me / give me some informations ? Thank you for your help cheers,
Erwan
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I would like something more : control the BPM value. In your programs, what is the effect of sending a bang to jack_transport ? (I saw this in the help dialog)
iirc, bang returns the jack transport frame number ...
i just wrote it for a composition, where i had to synchronize pd and ardour via jack transport, so it just contains the features, that i needed, which are very basic :)
cheers, tim
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Hallo, Mysth-R hat gesagt: // Mysth-R wrote:
Thank you for this external. It works and it is very usefull, but I would like something more : control the BPM value.
What is the "BPM value"? I know what it is musically, but in Pd, there is no such thing as a predefined "BPM value". I never used jack_transport besides starting stuff from Qjackctl, and there is no "BPM value" either, as far as I saw.
Ciao
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2007/9/29, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org:
Hallo, Mysth-R hat gesagt: // Mysth-R wrote:
Thank you for this external. It works and it is very usefull, but I would like something more : control the BPM value.
What is the "BPM value"? I know what it is musically, but in Pd, there is no such thing as a predefined "BPM value". I never used jack_transport besides starting stuff from Qjackctl, and there is no "BPM value" either, as far as I saw.
Yes it's right ... but if you want to synchronize several software you need a bpm don't you ? In pd I just use a counter to generate a regular signal (bang) Is there a way to send or receive a signal that I could transform in bpm in pd ?
Ciao
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Hallo, Mysth-R hat gesagt: // Mysth-R wrote:
In pd I just use a counter to generate a regular signal (bang) Is there a way to send or receive a signal that I could transform in bpm in
You can send any message with OSC like "/system/bpm 120" or "/system/beat kaboom" or whatever. With midi, you could either simply reserve a certain note on a certain channel for this, or define a certain controller to be the "speed" or "bpm" controller. You could even use an audio signal for synchronization, e.g. a click signal or a [phasor~].
Anyway, on the Pd side you're totally free to use whatever as a bpm/beat counter/trigger/controller. It's likely that the software on the other end is more restrictive, so probably your Pd patch will need to adapt to whatever Ardour, seq24 etc. are expecting to control their tempo.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
Ok. So, there is not really an external to do what I want. :(
Thank you for your answer :) Best,
Erwan
2007/9/30, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org:
Hallo, Mysth-R hat gesagt: // Mysth-R wrote:
In pd I just use a counter to generate a regular signal (bang) Is there a way to send or receive a signal that I could transform in bpm
in
You can send any message with OSC like "/system/bpm 120" or "/system/beat kaboom" or whatever. With midi, you could either simply reserve a certain note on a certain channel for this, or define a certain controller to be the "speed" or "bpm" controller. You could even use an audio signal for synchronization, e.g. a click signal or a [phasor~].
Anyway, on the Pd side you're totally free to use whatever as a bpm/beat counter/trigger/controller. It's likely that the software on the other end is more restrictive, so probably your Pd patch will need to adapt to whatever Ardour, seq24 etc. are expecting to control their tempo.
Ciao
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Sorry for the double post, but this question is sort of directly in between the two mailling lists, pd and linux audio users....
Anyone been able to get seq24 to start from pd? I've tried numerous times to use seq24 for sequencing harmonies and whatnot, but it is always a pain getting it to start at the same time that I want my things to start in pd. In seq24, the settings are 'jack transport' and 'live mode' enabled. I then try to start the jack transport from the pd external or in qjackctl and seq24 doesn't do anything.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 3:57 PM, Tim Blechmann tim@klingt.org wrote:
i once write a small external to query jacktransport ... maybe it is useful for your purposes?
it is in the pd cvs under externals/tb/jacktransport
best, tim
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 13:20 +0200, Mysth-R wrote:
Hi, I am new on this list. I tried to find some informations about syncing PD and Jack transport/BPM in the archive list but I am not satisfied :D I am making an Audio sequencer with PD, and I would like to use it with other linux softwares (seq24, hydrogens, freewheeling,...). So I need to synchronise PD and Jack with MIDI or OSC; I saw on the archive list some module like midirealtimein but it doesn't seems to work for me. Only receive zeros. Today I am trying to use jack.tools, to synchronise with OSC ( jack.osc). I can send /start /stop messages, but I don't understand how I can send transport informations, bpm ...
Can you help me / give me some informations ? Thank you for your help cheers,
Erwan
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