--- On Sat, 9/26/09, PSPunch shima@pspunch.com wrote:
From: PSPunch shima@pspunch.com Subject: Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing To: "Mathieu Bouchard" matju@artengine.ca Cc: "PD list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 1:55 AM
Hi Mathieu,
Hi all, A quick question regarding, pd/doc/5.reference/intro-help.pd I was wondering why [print~] and [samphold~] are
under "AUDIO FILTERS".
Are they meant to belong there?
They are meant to remind everybody that categories
don't necessarily make any sense.
I'd also ask what's the logic in not putting all the
AUDIO FILTERS object classes in the AUDIO MATH section, and/or in not putting all the AUDIO MATH classes in the AUDIO FILTERS section. But I don't expect an answer at all.
Haha, cool.
May I take it that there really is no relevancy (as far as you are aware)?
Actually this is question arose while proof reading instruction manuals written by a member of our local user group.
As there is a chance of it being widely circulated, I guess he may have to issue it based on pd-help "as is", and refer to Mathieu's comment if anyone asks the same, although if it was never brought up here, chances of it being asked again may be slim.
Hi David, Just move the relevant objects to whatever category you think they belong, or reorganize the entire thing and change the categories. Then put it in the patch tracker on sourceforge.
I've attached a reformatted version of the intro patch, if you want to use it as a template. I added some objects that were missing, like [drawsymbol], and the expr family, but haven't got around to reorganizing anything within the categories.
-Jonathan
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Just move the relevant objects to whatever category you think theybelong, or reorganize the entire thing and change the categories. Then
put it in the patch tracker on sourceforge.I've attached a reformatted version of the intro patch, if you want to
use it as a template. I added some objects that were missing, like [drawsymbol], and the expr family, but haven't got around to reorganizing anything within the categories.
how good of a solution is this? and if next week someone wakes up on the
wrong side of the bed, and decides to change some orders again (and one
week after the guy from this week restablishes the order again)?
besides, is this version also going to come with pd-vanilla? (both files
have the same ones) or when a new version of pd-van comes out, this
reformatted file will just be overwritten?
I guess one can make all custom changes he wants for himself. but if one
wants to change the structure of how these categories are organized, it
should be a broader discussion, and people should agree/abide with the new
settings. a discussion about this began in the pd-dev list half a year
ago, but didn't reach an end.
anyway, many programmers don't care about documentation, and put their
objects with no guide.
I also think that these categories are outdated, and the externals aren't
in the right place. but just doing "lone wolf" work on it isn't going to
change anything.
if there's a general desire to really put an order on this mess (inlcuding
the x000 externals around), then there should be a general discussion.
otherwise, just go back to programming and don't bother.
-
Jonathan Wilkes -
João Pais