On Apr 10, 2005, at 6:32 AM, timon wrote:

Hi, does anyone know if it is possible to turn on/off the menubar at the top? Im running pd/Gem on OSX and I want to output a stereo screen to two projectors. Cant seem to get rid if the menubar on window 1. Bit annoying.

No, it's not possible to get rid of the menu bar and still have the second screen work. For some reason Apple decided fullscreen = games and cut out some useful features. The workaround was to have a fake fullscreen that puts a window over the entire screen, which allows for different output on separate displays, but does not take over the display device. I remember spending days working on this and we settled on the best compromise that had the most utility in the greatest number of situations.

You can do what you want by attaching 3 displays to the machine and using two as output and one for the main.

Thanks, Timon.