hello all!
I was on this list some time back, but unsubscribed due to lack of time to learn pd. the time issue is a little better, so I have resubscribed in the hopes of learning this app.
here's my question: I really, really want a minimoog, but can't afford one. ;) I think that building one in pd using ladspa plugins (much like alsamodularsynth) would be a perfect way to dip my toe in the shallow end of pd. however, I can't figure out what to do once I get pd opened. I can add [plugin~ name.so], but I really don't know what else to do.
incidentally, I found a nice minimoog synth on the web, but one thing that I absolutely cannot stand with that and ams is the lack of ability to retrigger a held note after another one is played (I think this has been called the "trilogy trill" - make sense?). this is a must on an analog synth.
can anyone point me to some tutorials or give me some help with this?
hi J
i was doind some time ago a similar thing, and i would use more PD object and less LADSPA stuff. There is a nice moog~ filter allready in pd and i was writing oscilators in tables. u need 2 envelopes (one 4 the filter and one for amp) and u are almost there :). i will try to find the project next days and send it 2 u. by the way, did u try bristol synth? there is minimoog there also. have fun n.
On 5/27/07, Josh Lawrence hardbop200@gmail.com wrote:
hello all!
I was on this list some time back, but unsubscribed due to lack of time to learn pd. the time issue is a little better, so I have resubscribed in the hopes of learning this app.
here's my question: I really, really want a minimoog, but can't afford one. ;) I think that building one in pd using ladspa plugins (much like alsamodularsynth) would be a perfect way to dip my toe in the shallow end of pd. however, I can't figure out what to do once I get pd opened. I can add [plugin~ name.so], but I really don't know what else to do.
incidentally, I found a nice minimoog synth on the web, but one thing that I absolutely cannot stand with that and ams is the lack of ability to retrigger a held note after another one is played (I think this has been called the "trilogy trill" - make sense?). this is a must on an analog synth.
can anyone point me to some tutorials or give me some help with this?
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On 5/27/07, Josh Lawrence hardbop200@gmail.com wrote:
here's my question: I really, really want a minimoog, but can't afford one. ;) I think that building one in pd using ladspa plugins (much like alsamodularsynth) would be a perfect way to dip my toe in the shallow end of pd. however, I can't figure out what to do once I get pd opened. I can add [plugin~ name.so], but I really don't know what else to do.
Next you need to run oscillators into your filters. I suggest you check out Miller's documentation as it clearly explains how Pd works and what it's all about.
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 03:54:46PM +0000, Nikola Jeremic wrote:
i was doind some time ago a similar thing, and i would use more PD object and less LADSPA stuff. There is a nice moog~ filter allready in pd and i was writing oscilators in tables. u need 2 envelopes (one 4 the filter and one for amp) and u are almost there :). i will try to find the project next days and send it 2 u. by the way, did u try bristol synth? there is minimoog there also.
There was a minimoog created in Pd once as part of a university course somewhere. It seemed pretty cool and you can control it with midi. I don't have the link but I am pretty sure it's on the puredata plone site somewhere.
For analogue sounding oscillators I highly recommend Roman's blosc~ abstractions. They sound beautiful when filtered. Search the list archives to find them.
Best,
Chris.
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 23:08 -0400, Chris McCormick wrote:
For analogue sounding oscillators I highly recommend Roman's blosc~ abstractions. They sound beautiful when filtered. Search the list archives to find them.
you'll find them here [1]. beware, there is an issue, that has not been solved yet. in order to save cpu and memory, the tables are only created for the first instance of an oscillator and used by all instances. but if the first instance (with the tables) is removed, the other instances won't work anymore. there is a workaround implemented in the netpd-versions of the bandlimited oscillators [2]. the first instance of an oscillators opens a patch, that creates and holds the tables. this patch stays invisibly open, until pd is quit. this works only in netpd, because the path to the tables-patch needs to be known (1) (one could manually change the netpd-path to something different in order to use these abstractions outside of netpd).
[1] http://www.romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/ [2] http://www.romanhaefeli.net/software/netpd/
roman
(1) pathes to the [open(-message to pd (to open patches dynamically) are relative to pd's start location and NOT relative to the parent patch. i really hope, that this behaviour will be changed in future versions (or at least new behaviour added in order to keep backwards compatibility) of pd, since now it is impossible to distribute pd-projects, that do dynamically open patches without having to deliver start-up script or force the user to edit a settings-file (as netpd uses one).
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I don't know how closely related they are, but there is a [moog~]
object in the ggee library that you might be interested in.
.hc
On May 26, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Josh Lawrence wrote:
hello all!
I was on this list some time back, but unsubscribed due to lack of time to learn pd. the time issue is a little better, so I have resubscribed in the hopes of learning this app.
here's my question: I really, really want a minimoog, but can't afford one. ;) I think that building one in pd using ladspa plugins (much like alsamodularsynth) would be a perfect way to dip my toe in the shallow end of pd. however, I can't figure out what to do once I get pd opened. I can add [plugin~ name.so], but I really don't know what else to do.
incidentally, I found a nice minimoog synth on the web, but one thing that I absolutely cannot stand with that and ams is the lack of ability to retrigger a held note after another one is played (I think this has been called the "trilogy trill" - make sense?). this is a must on an analog synth.
can anyone point me to some tutorials or give me some help with this?
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Am 27.05.2007 um 04:43 schrieb Josh Lawrence:
incidentally, I found a nice minimoog synth on the web, but one thing that I absolutely cannot stand with that and ams is the lack of ability to retrigger a held note after another one is played (I think this has been called the "trilogy trill" - make sense?). this is a must on an analog synth.
chris mentioned it, did you try this one?
http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre/SananMiniMoog.zip
can anyone point me to some tutorials?
that depends where you are in the learning curve.. i liked these ones:
http://www.sideshowmedia.ca/audiotuts.zip http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/padawan12/onlinetutorials/html/ tutorials_main.html
Josh Lawrence schreef:
hello all!
I was on this list some time back, but unsubscribed due to lack of time to learn pd. the time issue is a little better, so I have resubscribed in the hopes of learning this app.
here's my question: I really, really want a minimoog, but can't afford one. ;) I think that building one in pd using ladspa plugins (much like alsamodularsynth) would be a perfect way to dip my toe in the shallow end of pd. however, I can't figure out what to do once I get pd opened. I can add [plugin~ name.so], but I really don't know what else to do.
incidentally, I found a nice minimoog synth on the web, but one thing that I absolutely cannot stand with that and ams is the lack of ability to retrigger a held note after another one is played (I think this has been called the "trilogy trill" - make sense?). this is a must on an analog synth.
can anyone point me to some tutorials or give me some help with this?
from tom erbe's blog:
"Mon Mar 21, 2005 MUSIC 171 - Best of Finals
There were some really fantastic final projects for Music 171 this year, and I wanted to post what I thought were the best emulations. All of these are pd patches.
Matthew Bielich's Arp Odyssey http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre/BielichArpOdyssey.zip
Patrick Sanan's Minimoog http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre/SananMiniMoog.zip
For those not in the class, these are the projects for the UCSD Computer Music I class, the introductory computer music class which most take in their 3rd year as an undergraduate. The assignment was to emulate either a Minimoog, Arp Odyssey, SCI Pro-One or Oxford OSCar in either Max/MSP or pd."
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