--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu Subject: RE: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: "'Jonathan Wilkes'" jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 2:27 AM
Regarding "tidy up"-- are you
referring to XTOLERANCE,
YTOLERANCE, and NHIST? If so, I posted a message
awhile back with
I set it to 20 20 15 respectively and it seems to do the trick in tests I did so far.
what seemed like some decent values, but in some cases
it would
swap the position of two objects in a row or
column. Also, this
behavior changed depending on the order in which those
objects were
created. (I have a feeling this is why those
values are set so low.)
If you post another tar.gz with your new "tidy" I'll
see
if I can reproduce this behavior.
Oops, forgot to post this one, haven't I? :-)
Same place, same links:
Ok, this is looking familiar-- have a look at tidy-test.pd, select each group of objects one at a time and do 'tidy up':
- Works as it should.
- Objects are below the y-threshold, so they (understandably)
collapse. 3. Works as it should. 4. Objects spaced 30 px apart vertically seem arbitrarily to no longer get tidy. 5. Horizontal row of objects gets tidy (with arbitrarily large space in between any two objects). Works as it should-- columns of objects should behave the same way.
Now select all and tidy. Notice that #3 now gives different results.
-Jonathan
HTH
Best wishes,
Ico
Ok, this is looking familiar-- have a look at tidy-test.pd, select each group of objects one at a time and do 'tidy up':
- Works as it should.
- Objects are below the y-threshold, so they (understandably)
collapse. 3. Works as it should. 4. Objects spaced 30 px apart vertically seem arbitrarily to no longer get tidy. 5. Horizontal row of objects gets tidy (with arbitrarily large space in between any two objects). Works as it should-- columns of objects should behave the same way.
Now select all and tidy. Notice that #3 now gives different results.
-Jonathan
Interesting... It seems to me tidy would work better if it simply checked first if it had objects that are vertically or horizontally closer to its x,y position and then adjust according to them only, rather than keeping a HIST of values it may be able to potentially adjust to. This would of course require change to the algorithm's fundamentals. Another thought would be to have the whole thing keep running with ever-increasing thresholds until something is adjusted or some ridiculous threshold is reached.
Ico
Hi
Thanks Ico, it's working now- no errors-
*Really* sorry to be a pain but can I ask how I can easily point pd to pick up my libraries, Gem etc, other than inputting the folders and binary names one by one from start up & paths menu?
Thanks again ! Al
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu wrote:
Ok, this is looking familiar-- have a look at tidy-test.pd, select each group of objects one at a time and do 'tidy up':
- Works as it should.
- Objects are below the y-threshold, so they (understandably)
collapse. 3. Works as it should. 4. Objects spaced 30 px apart vertically seem arbitrarily to no longer get tidy. 5. Horizontal row of objects gets tidy (with arbitrarily large space in between any two objects). Works as it should-- columns of objects should behave the same way.
Now select all and tidy. Notice that #3 now gives different results.
-Jonathan
Interesting... It seems to me tidy would work better if it simply checked first if it had objects that are vertically or horizontally closer to its x,y position and then adjust according to them only, rather than keeping a HIST of values it may be able to potentially adjust to. This would of course require change to the algorithm's fundamentals. Another thought would be to have the whole thing keep running with ever-increasing thresholds until something is adjusted or some ridiculous threshold is reached.
Ico
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Thanks Ico, it's working now- no errors-
Really sorry to be a pain but can I ask how I can easily point pd to pick up my libraries, Gem etc, other than inputting the folders and binary names one by one from start up & paths menu?
Thanks again ! Al
Assuming you've been using pd-extended, easiest is to copy default.pdsettings (the one we have on the L2Ork site) and copy it to your /usr/lib/pd folder. You may want to back your old one up before doing so if you have custom settings in there already.
Second easiest is to install pd-extended dpkg for your distro (ideally the one before its executable and path have been moved to /usr/lib/pd-extended, which is I believe 0.42.5 snapshot from a couple months ago) and then reinstall L2Ork's version over it and copy the aforesaid default.pdsettings file.
HTH
Ico
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ALAN BROOKER -
Ivica Ico Bukvic -
Jonathan Wilkes