Dear list, dear Miller,
I tried Pd on a fresh Raspbian install today. I removed pulseaudio as you suggested. I installed Pd from the Raspbian repos (not your version). I tried it with my USB E-MU 0404 soundcard. It worked right away. No need to slow down the USB. I tried with a latency in Pd of 10 ms, in X, connected to the internet, and there was very little dropouts. This is so promising it's scary.
Now i have one very frustrating problem : i don't know how to choose my soundcard from the command line when starting Pd... It shows up as Card 1, device 0 when i do "aplay -l", but i don't know how to use this information.
Cheers!
Pierre.
That's great (and surprising) news... I wonder why you're getting a better ride from teh E-MU box than I am from the iMic but it sounds as if I should be digging up one like yours to try.
I think you can just invoke 'pd -sounddev 2' to select the USB device.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:23:51PM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
Dear list, dear Miller,
I tried Pd on a fresh Raspbian install today. I removed pulseaudio as you suggested. I installed Pd from the Raspbian repos (not your version). I tried it with my USB E-MU 0404 soundcard. It worked right away. No need to slow down the USB. I tried with a latency in Pd of 10 ms, in X, connected to the internet, and there was very little dropouts. This is so promising it's scary.
Now i have one very frustrating problem : i don't know how to choose my soundcard from the command line when starting Pd... It shows up as Card 1, device 0 when i do "aplay -l", but i don't know how to use this information.
Cheers!
Pierre.
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I don't know why it's working. I just hope the next update won't break that!
So "-sounddev 2" should work for my card showing up as card 1 ? Incidentally, there are only two pages that I know of on the web explaining how to use start-up flags in the command line ( http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/getting-started/starting/ and http://puredata.info/docs/faq/commandline). None of them mention "-soundev". Is this a new flag ? Unless there's a better place on the web to learn about start-up flags, i think it would be a good idea to provide more details on the community website. I always find it frustrating when i have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to use a command line program just because i don't know the syntax of the arguments.
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/22 Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu
That's great (and surprising) news... I wonder why you're getting a better ride from teh E-MU box than I am from the iMic but it sounds as if I should be digging up one like yours to try.
I think you can just invoke 'pd -sounddev 2' to select the USB device.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:23:51PM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
Dear list, dear Miller,
I tried Pd on a fresh Raspbian install today. I removed pulseaudio as you suggested. I installed Pd from the Raspbian repos (not your version). I tried it with my USB E-MU 0404 soundcard. It worked right away. No need to slow down the USB. I tried with a latency in Pd of 10 ms, in X, connected to the internet,
and
there was very little dropouts. This is so promising it's scary.
Now i have one very frustrating problem : i don't know how to choose my soundcard from the command line when starting Pd... It shows up as Card 1, device 0 when i do "aplay -l", but i don't know
how
to use this information.
Cheers!
Pierre.
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Le 23/01/2013 09:49, Pierre Massat a écrit :
I don't know why it's working. I just hope the next update won't break that!
So "-sounddev 2" should work for my card showing up as card 1 ? Incidentally, there are only two pages that I know of on the web explaining how to use start-up flags in the command line (http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/getting-started/starting/ and http://puredata.info/docs/faq/commandline). None of them mention "-soundev". Is this a new flag ?
no, it's not new.
Unless there's a better place on the web to learn about start-up flags, i think it would be a good idea to provide more details on the community website. I always find it frustrating when i have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to use a command line program just because i don't know the syntax of the arguments.
pd -h give you all needed informations. you don't need a web access.
cheers c
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/22 Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>
That's great (and surprising) news... I wonder why you're getting a better ride from teh E-MU box than I am from the iMic but it sounds as if I should be digging up one like yours to try. I think you can just invoke 'pd -sounddev 2' to select the USB device. cheers Miller On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 09:23:51PM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote: > Dear list, dear Miller, > > I tried Pd on a fresh Raspbian install today. I removed pulseaudio as you > suggested. I installed Pd from the Raspbian repos (not your version). > I tried it with my USB E-MU 0404 soundcard. It worked right away. No need > to slow down the USB. > I tried with a latency in Pd of 10 ms, in X, connected to the internet, and > there was very little dropouts. > This is so promising it's scary. > > Now i have one very frustrating problem : i don't know how to choose my > soundcard from the command line when starting Pd... > It shows up as Card 1, device 0 when i do "aplay -l", but i don't know how > to use this information. > > Cheers! > > Pierre. > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On 2013-01-23 09:49, Pierre Massat wrote:
I don't know why it's working. I just hope the next update won't break that!
So "-sounddev 2" should work for my card showing up as card 1 ? Incidentally, there are only two pages that I know of on the web explaining how to use start-up flags in the command line ( http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/getting-started/starting/ and http://puredata.info/docs/faq/commandline). None of them mention "-soundev". Is this a new flag ?
yes, but only if you consider Pd-0.35 relatively new (which even i don't :-))
i guess "-sounddev" is rather unknown, because the documentation only mentions "-audiodev".
the two flags are really the same, and i suggest to use "-audiodev" to avoid more confusion.
gfmadrt IOhannes
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On 2013-01-23 09:49, Pierre Massat wrote:
Unless there's a better place on the web to learn about start-up flags, i think it would be a good idea to provide more details on the community website. I always find it frustrating when i have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to use a command line program just because i don't know the syntax of the arguments.
on unix systems, about each and every cmdline tool has a manpage.
$ man pd
most programs i know, also accept a "-h" or "--help" argument, that gives you another help. Pd is a bit exclusive here, as it uses the "-help" syntax (but then Pd is clever enough to give you the full help whenever it encounters an argument it doesn't know about; so "pd -h" and "pd --help" work fine as well).
$ pd -help
in the case of Pd, the manpage is a little neglected, but at least it directs you to "pd -help".
fgamsd IOhannes
Hi,
thank you for your replies. Of course I know man, but honestly i didn't bother to read it...
I did try '-audiodev "1"' (my card shows up as card 1), but it didn't work. I'll try again tonight.
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/23 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at
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On 2013-01-23 09:49, Pierre Massat wrote:
Unless there's a better place on the web to learn about start-up flags, i think it would be a good idea to provide more details on the community website. I always find it frustrating when i have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to use a command line program just because i don't know the syntax of the arguments.
on unix systems, about each and every cmdline tool has a manpage.
$ man pd
most programs i know, also accept a "-h" or "--help" argument, that gives you another help. Pd is a bit exclusive here, as it uses the "-help" syntax (but then Pd is clever enough to give you the full help whenever it encounters an argument it doesn't know about; so "pd -h" and "pd --help" work fine as well).
$ pd -help
in the case of Pd, the manpage is a little neglected, but at least it directs you to "pd -help".
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"audiodev" and other device selecting options (MIDI for example) count the devicesstarting at 1 (probably because the first OS I ran Pd on did it that way but I don't even remember now). invoke "pd -listdev' to see what devices Pd actually thinks it can access and how it numbers them.
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:56:55AM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
Hi,
thank you for your replies. Of course I know man, but honestly i didn't bother to read it...
I did try '-audiodev "1"' (my card shows up as card 1), but it didn't work. I'll try again tonight.
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/23 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at
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On 2013-01-23 09:49, Pierre Massat wrote:
Unless there's a better place on the web to learn about start-up flags, i think it would be a good idea to provide more details on the community website. I always find it frustrating when i have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to use a command line program just because i don't know the syntax of the arguments.
on unix systems, about each and every cmdline tool has a manpage.
$ man pd
most programs i know, also accept a "-h" or "--help" argument, that gives you another help. Pd is a bit exclusive here, as it uses the "-help" syntax (but then Pd is clever enough to give you the full help whenever it encounters an argument it doesn't know about; so "pd -h" and "pd --help" work fine as well).
$ pd -help
in the case of Pd, the manpage is a little neglected, but at least it directs you to "pd -help".
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Thank you for your reply, i just discovered this -listdev by looking at the help page.
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/23 Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu
"audiodev" and other device selecting options (MIDI for example) count the devicesstarting at 1 (probably because the first OS I ran Pd on did it that way but I don't even remember now). invoke "pd -listdev' to see what devices Pd actually thinks it can access and how it numbers them.
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:56:55AM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
Hi,
thank you for your replies. Of course I know man, but honestly i didn't bother to read it...
I did try '-audiodev "1"' (my card shows up as card 1), but it didn't
work.
I'll try again tonight.
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/23 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at
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On 2013-01-23 09:49, Pierre Massat wrote:
Unless there's a better place on the web to learn about start-up flags, i think it would be a good idea to provide more details on the community website. I always find it frustrating when i have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to use a command line program just because i don't know the syntax of the arguments.
on unix systems, about each and every cmdline tool has a manpage.
$ man pd
most programs i know, also accept a "-h" or "--help" argument, that gives you another help. Pd is a bit exclusive here, as it uses the "-help" syntax (but then Pd is clever enough to give you the full help whenever it encounters an argument it doesn't know about; so "pd -h" and "pd --help" work fine as well).
$ pd -help
in the case of Pd, the manpage is a little neglected, but at least it directs you to "pd -help".
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