hi list, im working on a gem patch for a theater piece, the idea is that the scenography is gonna be made with the projection of 3 videos at the same time .... for synchronizing the videos i created a gem patch that is gonna be in each computer(3 computers: 2 osx and 1 with windows) connecting this 3 computers via netsend and netreceive....... I would like to know which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx. Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead. which factors influences the stability of opening and playing videos in gem? Does the video reading stabitlity comes from the amount of the video file size too?
any hints would be gratefully appreciated
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On Mar 7, 2006, at 11:54 AM, ruben patiño wrote:
which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx.
my vote goes to Raw-AVI (.avi) in RGB colorspace
Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead.
there are no guarantees that the software will not crash. by using pd you agree that there are no guarantees associated with using the software. see the LICENSE.txt in CVS or with your favourite distribution
./d5
Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that GEM just is too unstable to use on PC. A patch that was working fine for a week and a half, now crashes every time... Probably it's the video that is causing the problem, I loaded in a different file. But the new file worked, at first. Now the entire patch crashes every time, when I open the rendering window, with a memory allocation error.
But, after running it for a few minutes, it would often crash anyway.
I'm going to build the same patch In Jitter, and compare.
~David
On Mar 7, 2006, at 11:54 AM, ruben patiño wrote:
which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx.
my vote goes to Raw-AVI (.avi) in RGB colorspace
Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead.
there are no guarantees that the software will not crash. by using pd you agree that there are no guarantees associated with using the software. see the LICENSE.txt in CVS or with your favourite distribution
./d5
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Hopefully we'll have a pure::dyne soon enough and you will not have to install linux to make your installation run on it. (with acceleration for Gem and all the externals you need).
Of course you could always install linux...
Seems like OSX and linux people on here are able to run gem patches for months to years.
.b.
cyborgk@nocturnalnoize.com wrote:
Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that GEM just is too unstable to use on PC. A patch that was working fine for a week and a half, now crashes every time... Probably it's the video that is causing the problem, I loaded in a different file. But the new file worked, at first. Now the entire patch crashes every time, when I open the rendering window, with a memory allocation error.
But, after running it for a few minutes, it would often crash anyway.
I'm going to build the same patch In Jitter, and compare.
~David
On Mar 7, 2006, at 11:54 AM, ruben patiño wrote:
which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx.
my vote goes to Raw-AVI (.avi) in RGB colorspace
Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead.
there are no guarantees that the software will not crash. by using pd you agree that there are no guarantees associated with using the software. see the LICENSE.txt in CVS or with your favourite distribution
./d5
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, B. Bogart wrote:
Hopefully we'll have a pure::dyne soon enough and you will not have to install linux to make your installation run on it. (with acceleration for Gem and all the externals you need).
if pure:dyne is taking too much time to get to destination, there are several dozen other live-distros that could be customized to include pd-extended or something.
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hi
I would like to know which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx.
my vote is for photojpeg in osx
Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead.
theater is something where everything can happen....
which factors influences the stability of opening and playing videos in gem? Does the video reading stabitlity comes from the amount of the video file size too?
i think (it might be wrong....):
it depends of the size of the video-file - 320x240 is an acceptable size for a powerbook g4 800mhz, i don't know what is the limitation with other hardware.
i've done that with 4 computers, 1 master and 3 slaves + 1 ethernet dispatcher (don't know the english word) and it has work during 1 month without a crash (thank you osx)
use a minimum of pd gui to save cpu capability.
best regards nicolas
Last year I made a project for an Installation with two computers (MacOSX) using Netreceive and Netsend objects. I used more than 50 video files (720X576 PAL/25fps - .mov) and it never crashed (At leasr 2 video files were playing simultaneously).
Carlos Caires
-----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces@iem.at on behalf of ruben patiño Sent: Tue 3/7/2006 4:54 PM To: PD-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing
hi list, im working on a gem patch for a theater piece, the idea is that the scenography is gonna be made with the projection of 3 videos at the same time .... for synchronizing the videos i created a gem patch that is gonna be in each computer(3 computers: 2 osx and 1 with windows) connecting this 3 computers via netsend and netreceive....... I would like to know which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx. Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead. which factors influences the stability of opening and playing videos in gem? Does the video reading stabitlity comes from the amount of the video file size too?
any hints would be gratefully appreciated
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Yes, just to be clear, I think on MacOSX and Linux performance may be much more stable. From what I know the PC version has some problems, particularly with video playing.
I went back to my own patch, and got it running again. I determined that, basically, I can't safely play AVI files with pix_film (on Windoze). When I load a Quicktime, it seems to work okay, however.
But, again, the patch as a whole does not have the kind of stability I would need for an installation - there is still the possibility of crashing after an hour or two. It looks great though, when it's running!
~David
Carlos Caires wrote:
Last year I made a project for an Installation with two computers (MacOSX) using Netreceive and Netsend objects. I used more than 50 video files (720X576 PAL/25fps - .mov) and it never crashed (At leasr 2 video files were playing simultaneously).
Carlos Caires
-----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces@iem.at on behalf of ruben patiño Sent: Tue 3/7/2006 4:54 PM To: PD-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing
hi list, im working on a gem patch for a theater piece, the idea is that the scenography is gonna be made with the projection of 3 videos at the same time .... for synchronizing the videos i created a gem patch that is gonna be in each computer(3 computers: 2 osx and 1 with windows) connecting this 3 computers via netsend and netreceive....... I would like to know which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx. Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead. which factors influences the stability of opening and playing videos in gem? Does the video reading stabitlity comes from the amount of the video file size too?
any hints would be gratefully appreciated
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On 3/7/06, David Powers cyborgk@nocturnalnoize.com wrote:
Yes, just to be clear, I think on MacOSX and Linux performance may be much more stable. From what I know the PC version has some problems, particularly with video playing.
Yes, the Windows version 0.90 does crash when loading Quicktime clips. I have done some work to fix this and hopefully the results will be available soon.
The other recommendations for Photo-Jpeg on OSX are good ones.
cgc
Hi all,
Hey Ruben, I am working on a project that is exactly the same thing than this. I will use OSC, not netsend. Well, I will use UDP anyways. If you are open, we could share patches and researches. I will use Pd with a very minimum GUI and I think I will use a command-line patcher and a MIDI keyboard for controls.
Regarding Gem, I was wondering if a computer could run 2 instances of PD both running Gem ? My tests resulted in failures.
::: PD-extended OSX version:
Also, I would like a feedback regarding which Pd-Extended version I should be using. Should I use 0.38-4 that seems for me the most stable, or can I use the latest 0.39-2-test1 ? Also, should I copy the plist as written in the doc (because right now I always write my own .pdrc...) ? To add libraries, I like to use the .pdrc.
Thanks, keep up the good work !
aalex
ruben patiño a écrit :
hi list, im working on a gem patch for a theater piece, the idea is that the scenography is gonna be made with the projection of 3 videos at the same time .... for synchronizing the videos i created a gem patch that is gonna be in each computer(3 computers: 2 osx and 1 with windows) connecting this 3 computers via netsend and netreceive....... I would like to know which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx. Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead. which factors influences the stability of opening and playing videos in gem? Does the video reading stabitlity comes from the amount of the video file size too?
any hints would be gratefully appreciated
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