So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
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GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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Hi Hans,
great news, thank you !
Here are a startup problem I have (on archlinux) :
if a symlink in lib/pd-extended/startup is dangling, pd segfaults. Maybe there's something more graceful to do with that :).
I saw that because I removed the lua loader from the externals makefile, and the install script still creates pdlua in the startup dir.
Also there's a strange hickup with Gem, which fails to configure on first pass (problem with PROG_OBJCXX not defined or so), but restarting the compilation as-is works.
So basically things work on Arch with these tweaks:
change the lua paths in loaders/pdua/src/Makefile to lua instead of lua5.1
compile two times
Thanks,
Charles Goyard wrote:
Also there's a strange hickup with Gem, which fails to configure on first pass (problem with PROG_OBJCXX not defined or so), but restarting the compilation as-is works.
Ooops. It seems I mixed things. I had to uncomment the AC_PROG-OBJCXX in configure.ac and apply the cross-compilation workaround patch from the debian packaging stuff.
Note: up to data git Gem does not exhibit this behavior and builds fine out of the box.
Hi Hans,
The Windows versions (.zip and .exe) are not found when you click on the links.
Cheers Piere-Olivier
On 23/10/2012 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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Oops, still working out the kinks in the new Windows build server. The file was misnamed. That's fixed now. I should also say again, thanks to Max Neupert for getting this new Windows build servers setup. Sure beats the old 700MHz one that I was running.
.hc
On 10/23/2012 05:58 AM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
Hi Hans,
The Windows versions (.zip and .exe) are not found when you click on the links.
Cheers Piere-Olivier
On 23/10/2012 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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Hello all,
Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that.
Thanks in advance, best, n
Le 23/10/12 12:15, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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Hmm.. can you tell me if this happens in "vanilla" 0.43 as well? (I infer from the report that you're using Pd extended, correct?)
thanks Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello all,
Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that.
Thanks in advance, best, n
Le 23/10/12 12:15, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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Hello Miller,
In vanilla, this is happening, but with a lesser importance. Here are the test with different versions, first number is when opening only the cpu meter, second number is when i move the cpu meter window, third number is when i turn on the dsp, 4th number is when i turn off the dsp, and fifth is when I turn the dsp on again:
cpu-meter / moving window / dsp on / dsp off / dsp on Pd-0.43-1 : 25 / 12 / 25 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43-4 : 25 / 12 / 27 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120402 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50 Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121022 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50
Tell me if i can help with further testing.
Thanks, n
Le 28/10/12 20:21, Miller Puckette a écrit :
Hmm.. can you tell me if this happens in "vanilla" 0.43 as well? (I infer from the report that you're using Pd extended, correct?)
thanks Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello all,
Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that.
Thanks in advance, best, n
Le 23/10/12 12:15, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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THanks... I'll be able to get on an up-to-date machine tomrrow and will see if I can get the same behavior.
M
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:14:41PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello Miller,
In vanilla, this is happening, but with a lesser importance. Here are the test with different versions, first number is when opening only the cpu meter, second number is when i move the cpu meter window, third number is when i turn on the dsp, 4th number is when i turn off the dsp, and fifth is when I turn the dsp on again:
cpu-meter / moving window / dsp on / dsp off / dsp on Pd-0.43-1 : 25 / 12 / 25 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43-4 : 25 / 12 / 27 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120402 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50 Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121022 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50
Tell me if i can help with further testing.
Thanks, n
Le 28/10/12 20:21, Miller Puckette a écrit :
Hmm.. can you tell me if this happens in "vanilla" 0.43 as well? (I infer from the report that you're using Pd extended, correct?)
thanks Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello all,
Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that.
Thanks in advance, best, n
Le 23/10/12 12:15, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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The main difference that I can think of is that Pd-extended uses a newer version of Portaudio to get 64-bit support on all platforms. Maybe you could try building Pd-extended against the very latest portaudio and the version of portaudio that Pd-vanilla 0.43 is using.
That should just be a matter of replacing the files in the pd/portaudio folder and rebuilding.
.hc
On Oct 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
THanks... I'll be able to get on an up-to-date machine tomrrow and will see if I can get the same behavior.
M
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:14:41PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello Miller,
In vanilla, this is happening, but with a lesser importance. Here are the test with different versions, first number is when opening only the cpu meter, second number is when i move the cpu meter window, third number is when i turn on the dsp, 4th number is when i turn off the dsp, and fifth is when I turn the dsp on again:
cpu-meter / moving window / dsp on / dsp off / dsp on Pd-0.43-1 : 25 / 12 / 25 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43-4 : 25 / 12 / 27 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120402 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50 Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121022 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50
Tell me if i can help with further testing.
Thanks, n
Le 28/10/12 20:21, Miller Puckette a écrit :
Hmm.. can you tell me if this happens in "vanilla" 0.43 as well? (I infer from the report that you're using Pd extended, correct?)
thanks Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello all,
Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that.
Thanks in advance, best, n
Le 23/10/12 12:15, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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Le 29/10/12 04:43, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
The main difference that I can think of is that Pd-extended uses a newer version of Portaudio to get 64-bit support on all platforms.
There is two phenomenas:
- a cpu consumption that is decreasing when the window is moved. That
seems to be the new 0.43 GUI code, because this is happening even in pd-vanilla
- a cpu difference between pd-x and vanilla
Maybe you could try building Pd-extended against the very latest portaudio and the version of portaudio that Pd-vanilla 0.43 is using.
I'm not sure what is the easiest way to do that, but I may try to follow guidelines if you can give me some. Regarding Isaac's answer, I'm afraid this problem is concerning all osx computers... Best, n
On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Le 29/10/12 04:43, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
The main difference that I can think of is that Pd-extended uses a newer version of Portaudio to get 64-bit support on all platforms.
There is two phenomenas:
- a cpu consumption that is decreasing when the window is moved. That seems to be the new 0.43 GUI code, because this is happening even in pd-vanilla
- a cpu difference between pd-x and vanilla
The new GUI code in 0.43 is almost all in the Wish process. On Mac OS X, the Wish process will show up as 'Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121030' or something like that. Not much changed in the 'pd' process itself in terms of the GUI code. If you are seeing high CPU usage in the 'pd' process and not the Wish process, then its unlikely that the new GUI is the cause.
On Mac OS X, you can use Shark.app to profile a running app. Chances are you'll see what we've seen all along: most of this CPU usage is Pd blocking with wait calls.
Maybe you could try building Pd-extended against the very latest portaudio and the version of portaudio that Pd-vanilla 0.43 is using.
I'm not sure what is the easiest way to do that, but I may try to follow guidelines if you can give me some.
In the pd source tarball is a folder called 'portaudio'. Delete it, then download the version you want to try from http://portaudio.com. When you unzip it, you'll see a folder called 'portaudio', but that in your pd source, so its like pd/portaudio/ as in pd/portaudio/src
.hc
Le 31/10/12 19:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
The new GUI code in 0.43 is almost all in the Wish process. On Mac OS X, the Wish process will show up as 'Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121030' or something like that. Not much changed in the 'pd' process itself in terms of the GUI code. If you are seeing high CPU usage in the 'pd' process and not the Wish process, then its unlikely that the new GUI is the cause. On Mac OS X, you can use Shark.app to profile a running app. Chances are you'll see what we've seen all along: most of this CPU usage is Pd blocking with wait calls.
You're right, "pd" is taking all the cpu, Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121030 is 0%. From what I see with shark, the cpu is mostly used by a mach kernel function : "ml_set_interrupts_enabled" and by dsp function from "DspFuncLib" that all looks like usual effect ( processIIR, equalizer, multibandcompressor, ...). I can send the report off list if you like.
Still how can you explain the cpu decrease when the window is moving?
Maybe you could try building Pd-extended against the very latest portaudio and the version of portaudio that Pd-vanilla 0.43 is using.
I'm not sure what is the easiest way to do that, but I may try to follow guidelines if you can give me some.
In the pd source tarball is a folder called 'portaudio'. Delete it, then download the version you want to try from http://portaudio.com. When you unzip it, you'll see a folder called 'portaudio', but that in your pd source, so its like pd/portaudio/ as in pd/portaudio/src
ok, I don't have much time now, but I'll try as soon as I can. n
I tried with various versions of Pd vanilla and extended, always getting a load of 12% of my Mac mini 1.66 gHz machine (system 10.4.11, don't know what processor generation). If indeed the change in load comes from upgrading to the newest Pd extended it sounds like the new portaudio is doing us in.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:43:27PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The main difference that I can think of is that Pd-extended uses a newer version of Portaudio to get 64-bit support on all platforms. Maybe you could try building Pd-extended against the very latest portaudio and the version of portaudio that Pd-vanilla 0.43 is using.
That should just be a matter of replacing the files in the pd/portaudio folder and rebuilding.
.hc
On Oct 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
THanks... I'll be able to get on an up-to-date machine tomrrow and will see if I can get the same behavior.
M
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:14:41PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello Miller,
In vanilla, this is happening, but with a lesser importance. Here are the test with different versions, first number is when opening only the cpu meter, second number is when i move the cpu meter window, third number is when i turn on the dsp, 4th number is when i turn off the dsp, and fifth is when I turn the dsp on again:
cpu-meter / moving window / dsp on / dsp off / dsp on Pd-0.43-1 : 25 / 12 / 25 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43-4 : 25 / 12 / 27 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120402 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50 Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121022 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50
Tell me if i can help with further testing.
Thanks, n
Le 28/10/12 20:21, Miller Puckette a écrit :
Hmm.. can you tell me if this happens in "vanilla" 0.43 as well? (I infer from the report that you're using Pd extended, correct?)
thanks Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello all,
Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that.
Thanks in advance, best, n
Le 23/10/12 12:15, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended > 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server > is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things > are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs > listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the > last release. You can get it here: > > https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4 > > If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this > PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: > https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/ > > Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to > your machine: > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended > > > Unfixed bugs > ------------ > > These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we > appreciate all the help we can get. > > GUIs not updating well on parent patch > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55... > > Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64... > > Windows: the autotips are in a very small font > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55... > > Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-announce mailing list > Pd-announce@iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
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Sorry, just a followup - I realized I hadn't tried with the latest portaudio so just now did so... same result (12% CPU). I'm on a 32 bit machine; perhaps Pd extended is being compiled for 64 bits and this is changing the CPU usage?
cheers Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:43:27PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The main difference that I can think of is that Pd-extended uses a newer version of Portaudio to get 64-bit support on all platforms. Maybe you could try building Pd-extended against the very latest portaudio and the version of portaudio that Pd-vanilla 0.43 is using.
That should just be a matter of replacing the files in the pd/portaudio folder and rebuilding.
.hc
On Oct 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
THanks... I'll be able to get on an up-to-date machine tomrrow and will see if I can get the same behavior.
M
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:14:41PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello Miller,
In vanilla, this is happening, but with a lesser importance. Here are the test with different versions, first number is when opening only the cpu meter, second number is when i move the cpu meter window, third number is when i turn on the dsp, 4th number is when i turn off the dsp, and fifth is when I turn the dsp on again:
cpu-meter / moving window / dsp on / dsp off / dsp on Pd-0.43-1 : 25 / 12 / 25 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43-4 : 25 / 12 / 27 / 1 / 29 Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120402 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50 Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121022 : 50 / 23 / 50 / 2 / 50
Tell me if i can help with further testing.
Thanks, n
Le 28/10/12 20:21, Miller Puckette a écrit :
Hmm.. can you tell me if this happens in "vanilla" 0.43 as well? (I infer from the report that you're using Pd extended, correct?)
thanks Miller
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
Hello all,
Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that.
Thanks in advance, best, n
Le 23/10/12 12:15, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello Hans,
Thanks for your work. I have a special behavior here on macbook pro 13" / osx 10.6.8 / Intel core 2 duo 2.4 GHz:
When I launch "load meter" my cpu is already at 52-54% with nothing else open, even with the dsp not started. Then if I move the "load meter" window or the Terminal window, the cpu decrease to 20-25% during the movement Then if I switch to dsp on then dsp off, the cpu decrease to a normal 2%. It goes back to 50% when i reactivate the cpu. I'm using the portaudio driver, with 44100Hz / 100ms latency / 64 samples buffer, callbacks not checked and Built-in input and output.
Can other osx users reproduce this?
Best, n
Le 23/10/12 05:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended > 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server > is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things > are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs > listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the > last release. You can get it here: > > https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4 > > If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this > PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: > https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/ > > Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to > your machine: > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended > > > Unfixed bugs > ------------ > > These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we > appreciate all the help we can get. > > GUIs not updating well on parent patch > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55... > > Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64... > > Windows: the autotips are in a very small font > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55... > > Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-announce mailing list > Pd-announce@iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
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There is also a win7 64bit machine already ready and online waiting to be set up and administered. Who wants to take this on should get in touch with Hans-Christoph and/or me. If there is demand we could also set up a windows 8 machine (yes, microsoft is giving business and educaton customers win8 already)
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Am 23.10.2012 um 05:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:
So in a little burst of activity, there has been new work on the Pd-extended 0.43 release. A bunch of bugs have been fixed, a new Windows XP build server is up and running, a couple of bugs are still outstanding. Overall, things are looking good and ready to go! Unless you are affected by one of the bugs listed below, I think that this beta version is already much better than the last release. You can get it here:
https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
If you are running Ubuntu or Linux Mint (lucid thru quantal), you can add this PPA to automatically find and install Pd-extended beta updates: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
Running this command in the Terminal is the easiest way to add this PPA to your machine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
Unfixed bugs
These are the bugs that are not yet fixed. If you can help with them we appreciate all the help we can get.
GUIs not updating well on parent patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3573542&group_id=55...
Mac OS X: gem 0.93 does not play .mpg files https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3517368&group_id=64...
Windows: the autotips are in a very small font https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3526086&group_id=55...
Windows: canvas properties window is not focused when started https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3577400&group_id=55...
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