well I have the M-Audio pre mobile and an M-Audio midi controller, very stable and reliable from my experience so far easy to get going too in terms or setting it up with drivers etc couldnt tell you about the linux side of things though
-----Original Message----- From: Rory Walsh [mailto:rorytheroar@yahoo.com] Sent: 16 February 2004 11:56 To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] [PD][OT]M-Audio FireWire 410?
Does anyone have anything good to ay about this card, and how are M-Audio in general, in terms of drivers and support? Plus does anyone know if this cards run with Linux?
Cheers, Rory.
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Hallo, Adrian deCleir hat gesagt: // Adrian deCleir wrote:
well I have the M-Audio pre mobile and an M-Audio midi controller, very stable and reliable from my experience so far easy to get going too in terms or setting it up with drivers etc couldnt tell you about the linux side of things though
The Mobile Pre is not supported yet, but the M-Audio keyboards are. Still there are some M-Audio USB devices that violate the USB specification and thus will (likely) never work on Linux kernel 2.6. This is the M-Audio Quattro (tested by myself) and the M-Audio Audiophile (not tested by me). Other M-Audio devices need a firmware loader to get working on Linux. Long story made short: I will never buy a M-Audio USB device again. (Anyone interested in buying my as-new Quattro?)
I don't know more about Firewire devices than Patrick.
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 05:53:43PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Adrian deCleir hat gesagt: // Adrian deCleir wrote:
well I have the M-Audio pre mobile and an M-Audio midi controller, very stable and reliable from my experience so far easy to get going too in terms or setting it up with drivers etc couldnt tell you about the linux side of things though
The Mobile Pre is not supported yet, but the M-Audio keyboards are. Still there are some M-Audio USB devices that violate the USB specification and thus will (likely) never work on Linux kernel 2.6. This is the M-Audio Quattro (tested by myself) and the M-Audio Audiophile (not tested by me). Other M-Audio devices need a firmware loader to get working on Linux. Long story made short: I will never buy a M-Audio USB device again. (Anyone interested in buying my as-new Quattro?)
hey frank
hows it going old LAU bloke?
i see you're pretty active on this list... what sound card did you end up with?
cheers
- matthew
Hallo, Matthew Yee-King hat gesagt: // Matthew Yee-King wrote:
hey frank
hows it going old LAU bloke?
I see, Yee-King is in da house. Word up!
i see you're pretty active on this list... what sound card did you end up with?
Well, none yet. At first I decided on the Terratec Phase 26 USB, which is a really nice box and worked well, but testing it on my laptop showed, that my notebook couldn't keep up power-wise: instant reboot when inserting the USB cable. It worked while powered with the external power supply, though.
Now I guess I will get the Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB, which is more on the low end as far as multichannel cards go, but it worked flawlessly and instantly on both my computers. It's the same as the Audiotrak Maya 5.1 USB and I think a device by ESI. I'm a bit fed up with cards that require a lot of fiddling to get them to work. The current Quattro desaster remembered me, that the Quattro was not reliable in all the year I own it now. So it's time to stop configuring and start DJing. ;)
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
So the Quattro does not work in Linux at all? And this isn't going to be fixed in the future?
--- Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote: > Hallo,
Matthew Yee-King hat gesagt: // Matthew Yee-King wrote:
hey frank
hows it going old LAU bloke?
I see, Yee-King is in da house. Word up!
i see you're pretty active on this list... what
sound card did you end
up with?
Well, none yet. At first I decided on the Terratec Phase 26 USB, which is a really nice box and worked well, but testing it on my laptop showed, that my notebook couldn't keep up power-wise: instant reboot when inserting the USB cable. It worked while powered with the external power supply, though.
Now I guess I will get the Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB, which is more on the low end as far as multichannel cards go, but it worked flawlessly and instantly on both my computers. It's the same as the Audiotrak Maya 5.1 USB and I think a device by ESI. I'm a bit fed up with cards that require a lot of fiddling to get them to work. The current Quattro desaster remembered me, that the Quattro was not reliable in all the year I own it now. So it's time to stop configuring and start DJing. ;)
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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Hallo, Rory Walsh hat gesagt: // Rory Walsh wrote:
So the Quattro does not work in Linux at all? And this isn't going to be fixed in the future?
This is a strange case of: "No, it's the other way around." The Quattro did work more or less good on Linux, but does not do so anymore. See for example this thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=107564971126388&w=...
The Quattro is in volation of the USB specification, kernel 2.6 checks this and rejects the device. Kernel 2.4 did not check this.
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
The Mobile Pre is not supported yet, but the M-Audio keyboards are. Still there are some M-Audio USB devices that violate the USB specification and thus will (likely) never work on Linux kernel 2.6. This is the M-Audio Quattro (tested by myself) and the M-Audio Audiophile (not tested by me). Other M-Audio devices need a firmware loader to get working on Linux. Long story made short: I will never buy a M-Audio USB device again. (Anyone interested in buying my as-new Quattro?)
I don't understand this. I had an M-Audio Quattro once and it was working perfectly with kernel 2.4, Alsa and PD....all 4 channels in and out. This was back when Also worked with PD though.
-august.
Hallo, august hat gesagt: // august wrote:
I don't understand this. I had an M-Audio Quattro once and it was working perfectly with kernel 2.4, Alsa and PD....all 4 channels in and out.
It does not work with 2.6 at all: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=107564971126388&w=...
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
So does that mean it wil never work again with newer versions of Linux?
--- Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote: > Hallo,
august hat gesagt: // august wrote:
I don't understand this. I had an M-Audio Quattro
once and it was working
perfectly with kernel 2.4, Alsa and PD....all 4
channels in and out.
It does not work with 2.6 at all:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=107564971126388&w=...
ciao
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Hallo, Rory Walsh hat gesagt: // Rory Walsh wrote:
So does that mean it wil never work again with newer versions of Linux?
Hard to tell. Yesterday someone posted a patch to alsa-devel and linux-usb-devel, that modifies the USB system in the kernel in a way, that made the Quattro somehow work again. It's is questionable if this kind of patch will be included in the kernel tree, though. It could break several other things.
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
here is the thread:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=3905409&forum_id=...
its looking like there is a chance that the linux kernel might get patched to do the right thing and be more fault tolerant... but worst case senario it looks like there could be a kernel patch quattro users could apply themselves to get 2.6 working with.
*phew*
-josh
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Rory Walsh hat gesagt: // Rory Walsh wrote:
So does that mean it wil never work again with newer versions of Linux?
Hard to tell. Yesterday someone posted a patch to alsa-devel and linux-usb-devel, that modifies the USB system in the kernel in a way, that made the Quattro somehow work again. It's is questionable if this kind of patch will be included in the kernel tree, though. It could break several other things.
ciao
on the alsa tip, i ran into the same thing with required 1.0 alsa drivers and 2.6 - in libasound 1.0, they changed the snd_pcm_hw_param_* arguments and types around, so most apps written for asound fail to complile. it does look like they included the old call format in functions named old_pcm_hw_param_* (haven't tried those though.) so a search and replace might work.
work around that works for me is to use the 0.98 libasound and 1.0 drivers.
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 18:20, august wrote:
The Mobile Pre is not supported yet, but the M-Audio keyboards are. Still there are some M-Audio USB devices that violate the USB specification and thus will (likely) never work on Linux kernel 2.6. This is the M-Audio Quattro (tested by myself) and the M-Audio Audiophile (not tested by me). Other M-Audio devices need a firmware loader to get working on Linux. Long story made short: I will never buy a M-Audio USB device again. (Anyone interested in buying my as-new Quattro?)
I don't understand this. I had an M-Audio Quattro once and it was working perfectly with kernel 2.4, Alsa and PD....all 4 channels in and out. This was back when Also worked with PD though.
-august.
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