Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed
since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here
are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker
before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the
same issue, please add your information there:
HI Folks, i installed pd 0.42.5 in ubuntu 10.04 for my students, the .deb works and pd installer say: install done...Well... when i try run pd not work, no icon, i tried with terminal LD_PRELOAD= .... etc and dont work.... I installed all the updates, libv4, etc...
I work with 9.04 and the old release of pd... works fine
A little review
José
2010/6/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and pidip
(Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there:
http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
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ola!
On 06/11/2010 11:02 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
HI Folks, i installed pd 0.42.5 in ubuntu 10.04 for my students, the .deb works and pd installer say: install done...Well... when i try run pd not work, no icon, i tried with terminal LD_PRELOAD= .... etc and dont work.... I installed all the updates, libv4, etc...
what does not work? it would be good to be a bit more specific. try running from cmmdline, and see what you get there.
gmaser IOhannes
Hi
Did you type "pd" in the terminal or "pdextended"? Sorry to ask you such a dumb thing, but it happened to me a few times as i was using both vanilla and extended...
Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit :
HI Folks, i installed pd 0.42.5 in ubuntu 10.04 for my students, the .deb works and pd installer say: install done...Well... when i try run pd not work, no icon, i tried with terminal LD_PRELOAD= .... etc and dont work.... I installed all the updates, libv4, etc...
I work with 9.04 and the old release of pd... works fine
A little review
José
2010/6/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at mailto:hans@at.or.at>
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1: * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and pidip (Carbon) * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights: * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Downloading ----------- You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource BUGS -------- Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there: http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list--
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Thanks Hans-Christoph! If you keep this up I'm going to have do some
work.
Cheers Dafydd
On 2010-06-11, at 5:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed
since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here
are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug
tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug
report on the same issue, please add your information there:http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
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I did a quick test run on 10.6 64 bit and happy to see things working fine. Good to see the 64 bit builds coming out. Thanks.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there:
The only thing I noticed is
============================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
being printed to the console. If it's more then a debug print you missed, I'll file a bug report.
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and pidip
(Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
Are we still missing the [delwrite~] fix ?
_ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does
this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
João
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since
0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are
some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker
before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the
same issue, please add your information there:http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
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ah: it also complains that jpeg62.dll isn't found. but everything seems to run normally.
also, Grill's [pool] is missing. but that is probably not your problem,
but his.
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does
this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
Hola IOhannes... well ....maybe the problems is the user.... hehehe, i installed pd on many linux/ubuntu... but i cant run pd in 10.04... i ll try with the new release... thanks guys...
Best regards and thanks+
José 2010/6/13 João Pais jmmmpais@googlemail.com
ah: it also complains that jpeg62.dll isn't found. but everything seems to run normally.
also, Grill's [pool] is missing. but that is probably not your problem, but his.
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
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What makes it complain that jpeg62.dll is missing? I couldn't
reproduce that.
.hc
On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:19 AM, João Pais wrote:
ah: it also complains that jpeg62.dll isn't found. but everything
seems to run normally.also, Grill's [pool] is missing. but that is probably not your
problem, but his.from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label
will appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch
that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
"Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free
software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls
you." - Richard M. Stallman
to start pd, simply. I'm on XP.
What makes it complain that jpeg62.dll is missing? I couldn't reproduce
that..hc
On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:19 AM, João Pais wrote:
ah: it also complains that jpeg62.dll isn't found. but everything seems
to run normally.also, Grill's [pool] is missing. but that is probably not your problem,
but his.from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that
does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
"Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free
software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls
you." - Richard M. Stallman
Hmm, doesn't happen on my XP machine with 0.42.5-rc2. Perhaps you
have some externals installed that need jpeg62.dll?
.hc
On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:38 PM, João Pais wrote:
to start pd, simply. I'm on XP.
What makes it complain that jpeg62.dll is missing? I couldn't
reproduce that..hc
On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:19 AM, João Pais wrote:
ah: it also complains that jpeg62.dll isn't found. but everything
seems to run normally.also, Grill's [pool] is missing. but that is probably not your
problem, but his.from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label
will appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a
patch that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too
complicated)
"Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free
software means someone else controls that, and to some extent
controls you." - Richard M. Stallman-- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp
http://at.or.at/hans/
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, João Pais wrote:
to start pd, simply. I'm on XP.
There's a jpeg62.dll inside of the win32 gridflow package. you can put it in c:\windows\system32 or wherever it works. you can download it at :
_ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801
ah, that was it, I did install gridflow some time ago.
I also get something in the console when I start pd, but doesn't bother
after that:
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
system_setup
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
================================================================================
canvas_coords
================================================================================
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, João Pais wrote:
to start pd, simply. I'm on XP.
There's a jpeg62.dll inside of the win32 gridflow package. you can put it in c:\windows\system32 or wherever it works. you can download it at :
_ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801
fixed in the upcoming rc3.
h.c
On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:56 PM, João Pais wrote:
ah, that was it, I did install gridflow some time ago.
I also get something in the console when I start pd, but doesn't
bother after that:= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
system_setup
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
canvas_coords
= = = = = = = = = = ======================================================================
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, João Pais wrote:
to start pd, simply. I'm on XP.
There's a jpeg62.dll inside of the win32 gridflow package. you can
put it in c:\windows\system32 or wherever it works. you can download it at :_ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801
-- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp
I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three
meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds,
and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin
Luther King, Jr.
btw, maybe this is nothing, but I report it anyway.
I'm working on a bezier curve array on data structures. I'm working on
0.42.5 from january in ubuntu, and now just opened the patch in
yesterday's build on XP on another computer.
In the latest version, the following things happen:
- the data structure doesn't get loaded the first time. but if I open the
patch again without closing Pd, it displays correctly
- in the old version of .42, I could grab both middle control points and
drag them until outside the GOP box. but if I do it in the new version,
the patch get's "locked", and isn't redrawn (or something), unless I go
inside the GOP and drag the points until they're again inside the box.
While the first problem could be derived from any mistake in my
programming, I think the 2nd is something to do with GOP redrawing.
João
fixed in the upcoming rc3.
h.c
On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:56 PM, João Pais wrote:
ah, that was it, I did install gridflow some time ago.
I also get something in the console when I start pd, but doesn't bother
after that:==========
canvas_coords
==========
==========
canvas_coords
==========
==========
canvas_coords
==========
==========
canvas_coords
==========
==========
canvas_coords
==========
==========
canvas_coords
==========
system_setup
==========
canvas_coords
==========
==========
canvas_coords
==========
==========
canvas_coords
==========
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, João Pais wrote:
to start pd, simply. I'm on XP.
There's a jpeg62.dll inside of the win32 gridflow package. you can put
it in c:\windows\system32 or wherever it works. you can download it at :_ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801
--Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp
I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three
meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and
dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther
King, Jr.
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label
will appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch
that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I don't
really understand it from this description.
.hc
João
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed
since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here
are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug
tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug
report on the same issue, please add your information there:http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
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All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies,
one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better
language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly build.
Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've attached a screenshot.
Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I don't really understand it from this description.
.hc
João
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there:
http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
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Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly build.
Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've attached a screenshot.
Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I don't really understand it from this description.
.hc
João
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there:
http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
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Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly build.
Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've attached a screenshot.
Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I don't really understand it from this description.
.hc
João
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there:
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For me it can change a lot it I use the nvidia proprietary or the nouveau driver, or Gnome/KDE. With KDE it is always not good. It looks better with nouveau+gnome for me....
2010/12/8 B. Bogart ben@ekran.org:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly build.
Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've attached a screenshot.
Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label will
appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I don't really understand it from this description.
.hc
João
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1:
* 64-bit builds on Ubuntu * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and pidip (Carbon) * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights:
* fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there:
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If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is
not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font
names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the
font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly
build.Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi
setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've attached a screenshot.
Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the
label will appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch
that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I
don't really understand it from this description..hc
João
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1:
- 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
- 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
pidip (Carbon)
- fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and
Windows
- Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4,
here are some highlights:
- fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
- complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
- full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
- a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
Downloading
You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and
Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.htmlYou can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
BUGS
Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug
report on the same issue, please add your information there:http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker
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Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in the path.
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
.b.
On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly build.
Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've attached a screenshot.
Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
- path and other menus are now in normal size again.
- properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
- if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label
will appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I don't really understand it from this description.
.hc
João
> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed > since 0.42.5-rc1: > > * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu > * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and > pidip (Carbon) > * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows > * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again > > There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here > are some highlights: > > * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs > * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux > * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) > * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries > > For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: > http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease > > > Downloading > ----------- > > You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > You can get the source and build it yourself here: > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource > > > BUGS > -------- > > Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug > tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug > report > on the same issue, please add your information there: > > http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:53 PM, B. Bogart ben@ekran.org wrote:
Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in the path.
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
You are not...! I have the same setup, and fonts are looking good. I'd say don't bother removing the driver, sniff around TCl/Tk instead. For example, my tk scaling is 4.2333333333333325 What is TCL/Tk version?
Andras
Thanks for identifying yourself Andras,
My problem is very odd then.
I'm using tk8.5 (8.5.8-1) from the lucid repos.
What is your dpi setting Andras? (mine is 96)
My old tk8.2 book says that the tk scaling is proportional to the dpi, and for a 90dpi display the tk scaling should be 1.25.
So my tk scaling should be 1.33 for 96.
Your tk scaling of ~4.233 = a dpi of 304?
I guess I'll try compiling pd-extended from src and see what that gives me. I'm still confused why the pd font and size args change nothing on my system.
.b.
On 10-12-09 01:16 PM, András Murányi wrote:
You are not...! I have the same setup, and fonts are looking good. I'd say don't bother removing the driver, sniff around TCl/Tk instead. For example, my tk scaling is 4.2333333333333325 What is TCL/Tk version?
Andras
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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:44 AM, B. Bogart ben@ekran.org wrote:
Thanks for identifying yourself Andras,
My problem is very odd then.
I'm using tk8.5 (8.5.8-1) from the lucid repos.
What is your dpi setting Andras? (mine is 96)
My old tk8.2 book says that the tk scaling is proportional to the dpi, and for a 90dpi display the tk scaling should be 1.25.
So my tk scaling should be 1.33 for 96.
And it is 1.25, right?
Your tk scaling of ~4.233 = a dpi of 304?
I guess I'll try compiling pd-extended from src and see what that gives me. I'm still confused why the pd font and size args change nothing on my system.
I didn't understand, did your wish8.5 test come out right then?
Andras
try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5". That's
what Pd uses. wish could be pointing to wish8.4
.hc
On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following
in the path./var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags.
Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a
little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks
like I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
.b.
On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and
reinstalled pd-extended.No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and
still no change.I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended
package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen
dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change
the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font,
the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64
bit! Much has changed. :)Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly build.
Both versions show object and console text in a super small
font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting
(since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size.
I've attached a screenshot.Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry): > > - path and other menus are now in normal size again. > - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
Should be fixed.
> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the
> label > will > appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch
> that > does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I
don't really understand it from this description..hc
> > João > >> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2!
>> Fixed >> since 0.42.5-rc1: >> >> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu >> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid,
>> and >> pidip (Carbon) >> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and
>> Windows >> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again >> >> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since
>> 0.41.4, here >> are some highlights: >> >> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs >> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux >> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) >> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries >> >> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: >> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease >> >> >> Downloading >> ----------- >> >> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and
>> Windows: >> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >> >> You can get the source and build it yourself here: >> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource >> >> >> BUGS >> -------- >> >> Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug >> tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug >> report >> on the same issue, please add your information there: >> >> http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > -- > Friedenstr. 58 > 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) > Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 > Studio +49 30 69509190 > jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp
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with live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick<small-font-pd-extended-#2.png><tk_likes_dejavu.png>
"We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York Senator
Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage
bill
Hi Hans & Andras,
Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.
Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5
Note I have pd-vanilla (puredata) installed from the lucid repos also. It looks fine, and since I removed 8.4, and only 8.5 is installed, vanilla must be using 8.5.
To check if its some weird nvidia thing, I'm going to boot up in the live DVD and see if pd-extended still looks tiny.
Thanks for the debugging suggestions all.
.b.
On 10-12-10 07:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5". That's what Pd uses. wish could be pointing to wish8.4
.hc
On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in the path.
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
.b.
On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans and all,
After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly build.
Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi setting in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've attached a screenshot.
Thanks, B. Bogart
On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote: > >> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry): >> >> - path and other menus are now in normal size again. >> - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size > > Should be fixed. > >> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label >> will >> appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that >> does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated) > > Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I > don't > really understand it from this description. > > .hc > >> >> João >> >>> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed >>> since 0.42.5-rc1: >>> >>> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu >>> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and >>> pidip (Carbon) >>> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows >>> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again >>> >>> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, >>> here >>> are some highlights: >>> >>> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs >>> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux >>> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) >>> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries >>> >>> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: >>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease >>> >>> >>> Downloading >>> ----------- >>> >>> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: >>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>> >>> You can get the source and build it yourself here: >>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource >>> >>> >>> BUGS >>> -------- >>> >>> Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug >>> tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug >>> report >>> on the same issue, please add your information there: >>> >>> http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> -- >> Friedenstr. 58 >> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) >> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 >> Studio +49 30 69509190 >> jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, > one > chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better > language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
"Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick
<small-font-pd-extended-#2.png><tk_likes_dejavu.png>
"We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill
just a question: how to change the default font for tk/tcl?
2010/12/10 B. Bogart ben@ekran.org:
Hi Hans & Andras,
Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.
Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5
Note I have pd-vanilla (puredata) installed from the lucid repos also. It looks fine, and since I removed 8.4, and only 8.5 is installed, vanilla must be using 8.5.
To check if its some weird nvidia thing, I'm going to boot up in the live DVD and see if pd-extended still looks tiny.
Thanks for the debugging suggestions all.
.b.
On 10-12-10 07:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5". That's what Pd uses. wish could be pointing to wish8.4
.hc
On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in the path.
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
.b.
On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote: > Hi Hans and all, > > After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back. > > I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the > corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly > build. > > Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It > looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since > nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi > setting > in xfce font settings appears to make no difference. > > Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've > attached a screenshot. > > Thanks, > B. Bogart > > On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote: >> >>> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry): >>> >>> - path and other menus are now in normal size again. >>> - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size >> >> Should be fixed. >> >>> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label >>> will >>> appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that >>> does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated) >> >> Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I >> don't >> really understand it from this description. >> >> .hc >> >>> >>> João >>> >>>> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed >>>> since 0.42.5-rc1: >>>> >>>> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu >>>> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and >>>> pidip (Carbon) >>>> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows >>>> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again >>>> >>>> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, >>>> here >>>> are some highlights: >>>> >>>> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs >>>> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux >>>> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) >>>> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries >>>> >>>> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: >>>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease >>>> >>>> >>>> Downloading >>>> ----------- >>>> >>>> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: >>>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>>> >>>> You can get the source and build it yourself here: >>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource >>>> >>>> >>>> BUGS >>>> -------- >>>> >>>> Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug >>>> tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug >>>> report >>>> on the same issue, please add your information there: >>>> >>>> http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Friedenstr. 58 >>> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) >>> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 >>> Studio +49 30 69509190 >>> jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, >> one >> chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better >> language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
"Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick
<small-font-pd-extended-#2.png><tk_likes_dejavu.png>
"We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Ok, so after booting a ubuntu liveDVD (on a usb key) I found three interesting things:
Fonts look fine in pd-extended!! (no nvidia driver used)
the PD console prints some stuff that pdextended on my installation
does not: (no such messages on my installation)
Pd Version: 0.42.5-extended Tcl Version: 8.5.8
- The tk scaling value is ~1.3333 on liveDVD (not the ~1.25 on my
installation) Ok, my nvidia card says my dpi (provided by EDID) is 90x96. So the width tk scaling should be 1.25 and the height 1.33, so what does tk scaling mean when pixels are nonsquare?
For fun I manually changed the display DPI to crazy numbers (150x150), the tk scaling report changes, but the appearance of the fonts in PD do not change, but they do everywhere else.
I'll try compiling pd-extended from source next.
.b.
On 10-12-10 10:30 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans & Andras,
Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.
Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5
Note I have pd-vanilla (puredata) installed from the lucid repos also. It looks fine, and since I removed 8.4, and only 8.5 is installed, vanilla must be using 8.5.
To check if its some weird nvidia thing, I'm going to boot up in the live DVD and see if pd-extended still looks tiny.
Thanks for the debugging suggestions all.
.b.
On 10-12-10 07:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5". That's what Pd uses. wish could be pointing to wish8.4
.hc
On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in the path.
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
.b.
On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Start here for debugging it: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote: > Hi Hans and all, > > After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back. > > I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the > corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly > build. > > Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It > looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since > nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi > setting > in xfce font settings appears to make no difference. > > Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've > attached a screenshot. > > Thanks, > B. Bogart > > On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote: >> >>> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry): >>> >>> - path and other menus are now in normal size again. >>> - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size >> >> Should be fixed. >> >>> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label >>> will >>> appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that >>> does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated) >> >> Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I >> don't >> really understand it from this description. >> >> .hc >> >>> >>> João >>> >>>> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed >>>> since 0.42.5-rc1: >>>> >>>> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu >>>> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and >>>> pidip (Carbon) >>>> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows >>>> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again >>>> >>>> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, >>>> here >>>> are some highlights: >>>> >>>> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs >>>> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux >>>> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) >>>> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries >>>> >>>> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: >>>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease >>>> >>>> >>>> Downloading >>>> ----------- >>>> >>>> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: >>>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>>> >>>> You can get the source and build it yourself here: >>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource >>>> >>>> >>>> BUGS >>>> -------- >>>> >>>> Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug >>>> tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug >>>> report >>>> on the same issue, please add your information there: >>>> >>>> http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Friedenstr. 58 >>> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) >>> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 >>> Studio +49 30 69509190 >>> jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, >> one >> chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better >> language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
"Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick
<small-font-pd-extended-#2.png><tk_likes_dejavu.png>
"We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
I was able to compile pd-extended on my machine, and it behaves just the same as the stable release in the repo.
The puredata package from the official repos does accept a -font-face flag, but the -font-size does not seem to change (I tried from 10 to 1000 as args).
So I'll either compare the config between the liveDVD and my machine to figure out what is different that messes with PD extended, or I'll wait for the gui rewrite pd extended and stick with vanilla. Until this reinstallation I was using 0.39 for all my work still! No harm is sticking with vanilla 42-5.
.b.
On 10-12-10 12:05 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Ok, so after booting a ubuntu liveDVD (on a usb key) I found three interesting things:
Fonts look fine in pd-extended!! (no nvidia driver used)
the PD console prints some stuff that pdextended on my installation
does not: (no such messages on my installation)
Pd Version: 0.42.5-extended Tcl Version: 8.5.8
- The tk scaling value is ~1.3333 on liveDVD (not the ~1.25 on my
installation) Ok, my nvidia card says my dpi (provided by EDID) is 90x96. So the width tk scaling should be 1.25 and the height 1.33, so what does tk scaling mean when pixels are nonsquare?
For fun I manually changed the display DPI to crazy numbers (150x150), the tk scaling report changes, but the appearance of the fonts in PD do not change, but they do everywhere else.
I'll try compiling pd-extended from source next.
.b.
On 10-12-10 10:30 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans & Andras,
Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.
Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5
Note I have pd-vanilla (puredata) installed from the lucid repos also. It looks fine, and since I removed 8.4, and only 8.5 is installed, vanilla must be using 8.5.
To check if its some weird nvidia thing, I'm going to boot up in the live DVD and see if pd-extended still looks tiny.
Thanks for the debugging suggestions all.
.b.
On 10-12-10 07:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5". That's what Pd uses. wish could be pointing to wish8.4
.hc
On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in the path.
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
.b.
On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Start here for debugging it: > http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-... > > > > .hc > > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote: >> Hi Hans and all, >> >> After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back. >> >> I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the >> corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly >> build. >> >> Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It >> looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since >> nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi >> setting >> in xfce font settings appears to make no difference. >> >> Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've >> attached a screenshot. >> >> Thanks, >> B. Bogart >> >> On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote: >>> >>>> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry): >>>> >>>> - path and other menus are now in normal size again. >>>> - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size >>> >>> Should be fixed. >>> >>>> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label >>>> will >>>> appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that >>>> does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated) >>> >>> Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I >>> don't >>> really understand it from this description. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>>> >>>> João >>>> >>>>> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed >>>>> since 0.42.5-rc1: >>>>> >>>>> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu >>>>> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and >>>>> pidip (Carbon) >>>>> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows >>>>> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again >>>>> >>>>> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, >>>>> here >>>>> are some highlights: >>>>> >>>>> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs >>>>> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux >>>>> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) >>>>> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries >>>>> >>>>> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: >>>>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Downloading >>>>> ----------- >>>>> >>>>> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: >>>>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>>>> >>>>> You can get the source and build it yourself here: >>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BUGS >>>>> -------- >>>>> >>>>> Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug >>>>> tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug >>>>> report >>>>> on the same issue, please add your information there: >>>>> >>>>> http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Friedenstr. 58 >>>> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) >>>> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 >>>> Studio +49 30 69509190 >>>> jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, >>> one >>> chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better >>> language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >
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On 6/11/10 2:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2!
Hi Hans,
Most things look good so far, (macbook pro intel 10.6). Any idea what all the
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Phil
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