Hi,
I installed PD-extended on Windows Vista: I simply downloaded and ran the installer without changing any setting.
Now I run pd-extended, I create a new patch and try to create the following objects which I believe should all exist: [gemwin], [gemhead] [timeroll] [range] [readdir] [dirpanel]
None of them can be created. It seems like it is not "loading" the externals. I may be wrong about timelorr, range, readdir, but the first two are gem objects, so at least it is not running GEM. Also [dirpanel] was suggested to me by someone in the list. Isn't PD-Extended supposed to be already "configured" out-of-the-box to load all the included externals and libraries? (isn't it half all pd-extended is about, the other half being actually including the externals and libraries?) Including bnlt GEM?
I'm confused. What am I doing wrong? Thanks m.
You can configure it so that it doesn't load anything. Sounds like you
have old preferences in place. Try replacing your prefs with the
default ones by double-clicking the .reg file in Program Files\pd.
.hc
On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Hi,
I installed PD-extended on Windows Vista: I simply downloaded and
ran the installer without changing any setting.Now I run pd-extended, I create a new patch and try to create the
following objects which I believe should all exist: [gemwin], [gemhead] [timeroll] [range] [readdir] [dirpanel]None of them can be created. It seems like it is not "loading" the
externals. I may be wrong about timelorr, range, readdir, but the first two are
gem objects, so at least it is not running GEM. Also [dirpanel] was
suggested to me by someone in the list. Isn't PD-Extended supposed to be already "configured" out-of-the-box
to load all the included externals and libraries? (isn't it half all
pd-extended is about, the other half being actually including the
externals and libraries?) Including bnlt GEM?I'm confused. What am I doing wrong? Thanks m.
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Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
You can configure it so that it doesn't load anything. Sounds like you have old preferences in place. Try replacing your prefs with the default ones by double-clicking the .reg file in Program Files\pd.
Thank you but it did not work. Nothing has changed.
Any other suggestion?
thanks m.
On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
You can configure it so that it doesn't load anything. Sounds like
you have old preferences in place. Try replacing your prefs with
the default ones by double-clicking the .reg file in Program Files \pd.Thank you but it did not work. Nothing has changed.
Any other suggestion?
thanks m.
Post the log from your Pd window.
.hc
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Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
Post the log from your Pd window.
You mean the messages that are printed at startup? There are only these ones:
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.41.4
Indeed, [import] does load, while it does not (obviously and expectedly) when I run pd-vanilla (I have a separate folder with pd-vanilla).
I have also deleted and re-installed pd extended, this time in c:\Progra Files\pd, while before it was installed in d:\programmi\pd_extended, but this has not changed anything (i didn't expect it to).
On Dec 24, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
Post the log from your Pd window.
You mean the messages that are printed at startup? There are only these ones:
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.41.4
Indeed, [import] does load, while it does not (obviously and
expectedly) when I run pd-vanilla (I have a separate folder with pd- vanilla).I have also deleted and re-installed pd extended, this time in c: \Progra Files\pd, while before it was installed in d:\programmi \pd_extended, but this has not changed anything (i didn't expect it
to).
Your preferences aren't set to the default because its not trying to
load the libraries. [import] is compiled into Pd-extended, that's why
its loaded. The default prefs are included in that .reg file in
Program Files\Pd. FYI, It doesn't need to be in English since it uses
the %ProgramFiles% env var, which on Italian would be set to \programmi.
.hc
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direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice,
it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
Your preferences aren't set to the default because its not trying to load the libraries. [import] is compiled into Pd-extended, that's why its loaded. The default prefs are included in that .reg file in Program Files\Pd.
However, I have executed that .reg file (it said "these settings have been correctly added to the register", or whatever), and still, pd extended doesn't load the libraries.
If loading the libraries is the default setting, then it means that:
- somehow I have set it otherwise in the past
- executing the .reg file doesn't restore the default setting properly
(1) seem to me very strange because I have no idea of how to change this setting (telling pd not to load libraries) and never felt the necessity to do it and also (2) is quite strange isn't it?
How else can I restore default settings? Or can the issue be another one?
FYI, It doesn't need to be in English since it uses the %ProgramFiles% env var, which on Italian would be set to \programmi.
Yeah, well I meant that I have installed it in the system's "special" program file directory in C: where all programs are installed, which in Vista is actually called "Program Files" even if it is displayed with a translated name when browsing it in explorer ("Archivos de Programa" in my case since my computer is spanish); previously I had it installed in another disk, in a folder that I called "programmi" (since I am italian) which has no special meaning for the system. However that doesn't seem to be the problem, that was just a try.
By the way,
I have
- Pd "vanilla" which I donwloaded as a .zip and manually uninstalled
into a folder without doing anything to "install" it; I run it by running the .exe file inside the bin folder 2) pd-extended which I downloaded as an executable installer and installed by executing the installer.
If I managed to get the registry settings working (which I have verified that are present in the registry), would then both pd's use them? If so, how can a pd-extended and a pd-vanilla coexist (and both work as expected) in the same machine?
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
On Dec 24, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
Post the log from your Pd window.
You mean the messages that are printed at startup? There are only these ones:
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.41.4
Indeed, [import] does load, while it does not (obviously and expectedly) when I run pd-vanilla (I have a separate folder with pd-vanilla).
I have also deleted and re-installed pd extended, this time in c:\Progra Files\pd, while before it was installed in d:\programmi\pd_extended, but this has not changed anything (i didn't expect it to).
Your preferences aren't set to the default because its not trying to load the libraries. [import] is compiled into Pd-extended, that's why its loaded. The default prefs are included in that .reg file in Program Files\Pd. FYI, It doesn't need to be in English since it uses the %ProgramFiles% env var, which on Italian would be set to \programmi.
.hc
Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith
Ok, I manually added a library in preferences/startup (which worked after restarting pd) and searched for it in the registry, thus figuring out that the startup settings are being saved to and loaded from:
HKEY_USERS(some_long_id)\Software\Classes\VirtualStore\MACHINE\SOFTWARE\PD
So:
- Is it an error in the .reg file that stores the settings in a
location different from that actually used by pd, or is it Vista that uses a different location than XP? or is it some setting in Windows that the user can change (obviously for all programs but I wouldn't mind)?
- My other question remains that is: how can I have a PD extended and a
PD Vanilla on the same computer?
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
On Dec 24, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
Post the log from your Pd window.
You mean the messages that are printed at startup? There are only these ones:
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.41.4
Indeed, [import] does load, while it does not (obviously and expectedly) when I run pd-vanilla (I have a separate folder with pd-vanilla).
I have also deleted and re-installed pd extended, this time in c:\Progra Files\pd, while before it was installed in d:\programmi\pd_extended, but this has not changed anything (i didn't expect it to).
Your preferences aren't set to the default because its not trying to load the libraries. [import] is compiled into Pd-extended, that's why its loaded. The default prefs are included in that .reg file in Program Files\Pd. FYI, It doesn't need to be in English since it uses the %ProgramFiles% env var, which on Italian would be set to \programmi.
.hc
Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
- My other question remains that is: how can I have a PD extended and a
PD Vanilla on the same computer?
Well I guess one solution would be to create a .BAT file to load pd with the -lib option and the whole list of libraries (which I can get from the .reg file). Will that be all (provided that I use the binary from pd extended with its whole folder), or would I miss something that way (some path setting or whatever)?
On Dec 24, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Ok, I manually added a library in preferences/startup (which worked
after restarting pd) and searched for it in the registry, thus
figuring out that the startup settings are being saved to and loaded
from:HKEY_USERS(some_long_id)\Software\Classes\VirtualStore\MACHINE \SOFTWARE\PD
Yes, on Windows, they'll share preferences. I suppose that shouldn't
be, like Pd-extended should use "Pd-extended" as the registry path.
File a bug report/feature request if you want it to be, and I'll take
a look when I have time.
So:
- Is it an error in the .reg file that stores the settings in a
location different from that actually used by pd, or is it Vista
that uses a different location than XP? or is it some setting in
Windows that the user can change (obviously for all programs but I
wouldn't mind)?
So perhaps there is an error, btu I don't have access to a Vista
machine. I think other people are using Pd-extneded on Vista, maybe
they can help. If you think there is a problem/bug, then please file
a bug report.
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
- My other question remains that is: how can I have a PD extended
and a PD Vanilla on the same computer?
Well I guess one solution would be to create a .BAT file to load pd
with the -lib option and the whole list of libraries (which I can
get from the .reg file). Will that be all (provided that I use the binary from pd extended
with its whole folder), or would I miss something that way (some
path setting or whatever)?
Yeah, at .bat for Pd-vanilla or add -noprefs to the shortcut for
launching Pd-vanilla.
hc
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