Hey gang,
In a search for distraction from the project I'm really supposed to be working on, I decided to update my (until now stable but very outdated) Gentoo media editing machine. A couple days of circular package blocks, missing dependencies and vanishing libraries later, I'm really curious why I once decided it was a good idea to compile everything myself ;-) (Note to Gentooers: "emerge --update --deep world" once a month, or get the thing stable and never touch it again! If you wait too long, and your current packages go out of Portage, it can be hellish!).
So if and when this machine is hosed, what would be a good distro to put on it? I don't feel much like the super-hacker I was a four or five years ago when I got into Gentoo, but I like a distro that I can configure to be extremely minimal and transparent. And what is absolutely necessary is that it has well-configured versions of all the audio softs that I depend on, such as Ardour (w/ VST support!), Jamin, LADSPAs, JACK, etc. Realtime/prempt kernel = A-OK. Ability to use PD-Extended is of course a plus, and also the ability to mount HFS+ drives without destroying them (as Ubuntu has done to me in the past) is also necessary.
I looked at Ubuntu Studio, but I wanted to ask who actually uses it. From the page it seems like maybe it's not well-maintained, and that's another requirement for me after messing around with different audio-related overlays for Portage that eventually get abandoned.
If Ubuntu Studio isn't the right one, can anyone suggest another option? My last criteria is that it has a coherent user community and excellent docs (strongest point of Gentoo, and from what I recall a weak point of straight Debian, IMHO).
thx + best! D.
i have used dynebolic+puredyne in live situations, with really good performance, also i have used ubuntu studio (hardy) for graphics and audio, and for me, it works ok, what i like: Updated very frequently, the guys work hard fixing things and trying to improve the distro i like the concept of "just use it", don't mess with kernel stuff and compiling things, so you have time for the fun stuff Apt-get works great, just search for the app, install and use it Many of the interesting audio/video apps are ready to use Great support from the ubuntu community Good graphics support
what i don't like: Sometimes things get broken when you do an update , so you have to wait for a couple of days until a new update comes
by the way fedora/ccrma distro is solid as a rock in audio, but it lacks good 3d support, now if you can compile the needed drivers, you should consider it.
M.
M.
2008/7/13 Derek Holzer derek@umatic.nl:
Hey gang,
In a search for distraction from the project I'm really supposed to be working on, I decided to update my (until now stable but very outdated) Gentoo media editing machine. A couple days of circular package blocks, missing dependencies and vanishing libraries later, I'm really curious why I once decided it was a good idea to compile everything myself ;-) (Note to Gentooers: "emerge --update --deep world" once a month, or get the thing stable and never touch it again! If you wait too long, and your current packages go out of Portage, it can be hellish!).
So if and when this machine is hosed, what would be a good distro to put on it? I don't feel much like the super-hacker I was a four or five years ago when I got into Gentoo, but I like a distro that I can configure to be extremely minimal and transparent. And what is absolutely necessary is that it has well-configured versions of all the audio softs that I depend on, such as Ardour (w/ VST support!), Jamin, LADSPAs, JACK, etc. Realtime/prempt kernel = A-OK. Ability to use PD-Extended is of course a plus, and also the ability to mount HFS+ drives without destroying them (as Ubuntu has done to me in the past) is also necessary.
I looked at Ubuntu Studio, but I wanted to ask who actually uses it. From the page it seems like maybe it's not well-maintained, and that's another requirement for me after messing around with different audio-related overlays for Portage that eventually get abandoned.
If Ubuntu Studio isn't the right one, can anyone suggest another option? My last criteria is that it has a coherent user community and excellent docs (strongest point of Gentoo, and from what I recall a weak point of straight Debian, IMHO).
thx + best! D.
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Derek,
wasn't it you who posted a link to "gentoo is for ricers" site on this list years ago? :) (site seems to be down now)
I used to use gentoo because, for years, I had a pII 500mhz laptop with a max of 128mb of ram. I thought with gentoo, I would be able to slim the memory usage down and max out the amount of mmx and sse instructions used in code overall. And, I remember it running really smoothly.
At one point, however, I got sick of compiling X for 2 days straight every time that needed to be upgraded. I also spent 3 or 4 days trying to get it to work with a wireless card with which I was stuck. At that point, I installed ubuntu 5.10 (i think. this was 2004). In my experience, ubuntu has been good at recognizing the most kinds of general use hardware (wireless cards, bluetooth, openGL, usb cards and media readers etc) so long as you use their gnome environment. It also has a very large selection of packages. I stuck to the apt-get'able packages and never had a single problem in the last 4 years. I spent considerably less time futzing around with various options...and learned to live with what was there. I was also able to mount and use normal non-journaled HFS+ drives, although only did that on one or two occasions when I was forced to 'think different'.
I now have a laptop with pIII 600mhz and 256mb of ram with Ubuntu Hardy Heron (the latest). If you have less than a 1Gig of RAM, I would seriously not recommend using this distro. It was an amazing difference in memory usage from the last distro version to this one. I have stopped all unnecessary daemons and had to stop using the gnome window manager and now use fluxbox...and it will still swap like crazy every now and then.
I'm actually considering switching back to gentoo.
-august.
Hey gang,
In a search for distraction from the project I'm really supposed to be working on, I decided to update my (until now stable but very outdated) Gentoo media editing machine. A couple days of circular package blocks, missing dependencies and vanishing libraries later, I'm really curious why I once decided it was a good idea to compile everything myself ;-) (Note to Gentooers: "emerge --update --deep world" once a month, or get the thing stable and never touch it again! If you wait too long, and your current packages go out of Portage, it can be hellish!).
So if and when this machine is hosed, what would be a good distro to put on it? I don't feel much like the super-hacker I was a four or five years ago when I got into Gentoo, but I like a distro that I can configure to be extremely minimal and transparent. And what is absolutely necessary is that it has well-configured versions of all the audio softs that I depend on, such as Ardour (w/ VST support!), Jamin, LADSPAs, JACK, etc. Realtime/prempt kernel = A-OK. Ability to use PD-Extended is of course a plus, and also the ability to mount HFS+ drives without destroying them (as Ubuntu has done to me in the past) is also necessary.
I looked at Ubuntu Studio, but I wanted to ask who actually uses it. From the page it seems like maybe it's not well-maintained, and that's another requirement for me after messing around with different audio-related overlays for Portage that eventually get abandoned.
If Ubuntu Studio isn't the right one, can anyone suggest another option? My last criteria is that it has a coherent user community and excellent docs (strongest point of Gentoo, and from what I recall a weak point of straight Debian, IMHO).
thx + best! D.
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, august wrote:
wasn't it you who posted a link to "gentoo is for ricers" site on this list years ago? :) (site seems to be down now)
It was reestablished and renamed to http://funroll-loops.info/
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It wasn't me that originally posted it I think. Can't remember, actually... But it did get sent to me by several well-meaning people. And I always wondered what a funroll tastes like.... maybe shrimpy?
d.
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, august wrote:
wasn't it you who posted a link to "gentoo is for ricers" site on this list years ago? :) (site seems to be down now)
It was reestablished and renamed to http://funroll-loops.info/
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