What is the difference between import and declare? Pd 0.4 and up, will on of the two be deprecated?
Tom
Hum, first observations: import is "realtime": it imports the lib right away while with a declare you need to reopen the patch which is a pain. import seems to be less flexible than declare (as declare has many different flags).
Tom
On 10/31/07, Thomas O Fredericks tof@danslchamp.org wrote:
What is the difference between import and declare? Pd 0.4 and up, will on of the two be deprecated?
Tom
afaik, [import] is part of pd-extended and is much older. [declare] is part of pd since 0.40.
altough [import] came first, i personally prefer [declare], because it's part of pd. i don't know if it is possible with [import] as well, but with [declare] you can specify paths either relative to pd or relative to the patch, which is quite cool, because you can use it for loading externals/paths from extra as well as directories, that are project specific and not installed in <pd>/extra. also, when loading pathes with [declare], they are only added to the patch itself.
by the way:
- has anyone ever succeded in adding a path from the extra directory
with [declare -stdpath <dir>] on os x? on linux and window it works, if i do [declare -stdpath ../extra/<dir>] (for whatever reason, i have to prepend '../extra'). however, this didn't seem to work on osx. why? bug?
- personally, i find that [declare] is pretty badly documented. what
exactly means 'relative to pd' is not quite clear. for some reason, i am totally missing declare-help.pd right now. i performed a cvs update, but the file is still missing. am i doing something wrong here, or is it really missing in cvs?
roman
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 16:06 -0400, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
What is the difference between import and declare? Pd 0.4 and up, will on of the two be deprecated?
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On 31/10/2007, at 22.05, Roman Haefeli wrote:
for some reason, i am totally missing declare-help.pd right now. i performed a cvs
update, but the file is still missing. am i doing something wrong here, or is it really missing in cvs?
I can't locate it in CVS either, but it is in the src tar-ball from
millers site.
[import] in 0.40 uses the same code as [declare], just has a
different interface. Previous versions of [import] were quite a bit
different.
That code in 0.40 is still a bit buggy, so file bug reports please :)
.hc
On Oct 31, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
afaik, [import] is part of pd-extended and is much older. [declare] is part of pd since 0.40.
altough [import] came first, i personally prefer [declare], because
it's part of pd. i don't know if it is possible with [import] as well, but with [declare] you can specify paths either relative to pd or relative to the patch, which is quite cool, because you can use it for loading externals/paths from extra as well as directories, that are project specific and not installed in <pd>/extra. also, when loading pathes
with [declare], they are only added to the patch itself.by the way:
- has anyone ever succeded in adding a path from the extra directory
with [declare -stdpath <dir>] on os x? on linux and window it
works, if i do [declare -stdpath ../extra/<dir>] (for whatever reason, i have to prepend '../extra'). however, this didn't seem to work on osx. why?
bug?
- personally, i find that [declare] is pretty badly documented. what
exactly means 'relative to pd' is not quite clear. for some reason,
i am totally missing declare-help.pd right now. i performed a cvs
update, but the file is still missing. am i doing something wrong here, or is it really missing in cvs?roman
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 16:06 -0400, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
What is the difference between import and declare? Pd 0.4 and up, will on of the two be deprecated?
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