Hello list,
a friend of mine with not so much experience in pd wants to use one of my
patches in a concert, but had bad luck with the installation of pd. I
can't help him, because we're 1000 Km apart and I use windows, he OsX. Has
this happened to anybody before?
thanks,
joao
------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ------- Von: "jef chippewa" jef@newmusicnotation.com An: "joao miguel pais" jmmmp@arcor.de Betreff: PD crashes on launch Datum: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 05:41:30 +0200
OSX.3.9, mac mini 1.42, 1G RAM
a composer is preparing a patch so that i can perform a work of his using PD (processing of miked chamber quartet as well as electronic sounds). i have installed PD, which i DL'ed from http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html
during installation, i noticed a whack of files being installed, but i can't find an install log, and actually have no idea what files it installed (a search for PD gives nothing related). 2-clicking launches the app, but before it opens completely, it crashes.
PD people please help!
jef
jmmmp schrieb:
Hello list,
a friend of mine with not so much experience in pd wants to use one of my patches in a concert, but had bad luck with the installation of pd. I can't help him, because we're 1000 Km apart and I use windows, he OsX. Has this happened to anybody before?
yes, the pd 0.39 version crashes reliably on my Minimac. Haven't had time to look into it.
all the best, T
I recently ran a Gem patch for a 2 week season of a show using pd
0.38 on a similar Minimac without problems.
0.39 (Pd-0.39test2-extended-RC0 from Hans, Gem 0.90, Macmini 1.42,
1GB ram, OSX 10.4.2) seems to be stable as well - but [pix_movie]
seems broken - it plays a very zoomed-in version of quicktime movies
(all codecs that I have tried), on both the Minimac and my much
slower old Powerbook (OSX 10.4.2). [pix_film] works fine. The rest of
the patch seems fine.
[openpanel] also seems to stop responding occasionally, though only
when I am testing things, never in performance - I think this is when
I have a file open with [textfile], then try to open the same file
again with [openpanel] - but I am trying to isolate the problem a bit
better.
The Macmini has been a great (and not expensive) way to run
projectors except for one big problem - I only have clumsy
workarounds to get fullscreen images to the single main display.
Today I discovered the best yet - but it is still a mess:
OroborOSX has the option of "hide menu and dock" for a presentation
mode, it also has the option to "interleave X11 and Aqua windows" so
with Gem running fullscreen I switch to OroborOSX then use Expose
(all windows) and pick the Gem window
-Gem is now the frontmost window
-OroborOSX remains in focus so there is no menu or dock visible (and
pd does not put its other windows in front of the gem window)
-and the gem window does not get moved down (exposing its titlebar)
as usually happens when the other pd windows are hidden or the Gem
window is the last Aqua window open.
(all my control is via midi so I don't need pd in focus - but even
using -nogui the terminal window stays in front of the Gem window and
if that is hidden the Gem window is moved down to show its title bar).
It is clumsy, but it works.
Simon
On 5 Oct 2005, at 3:35 AM, Thomas Grill wrote:
jmmmp schrieb:
Hello list,
a friend of mine with not so much experience in pd wants to use
one of my patches in a concert, but had bad luck with the
installation of pd. I can't help him, because we're 1000 Km apart
and I use windows, he OsX. Has this happened to anybody before?yes, the pd 0.39 version crashes reliably on my Minimac. Haven't
had time to look into it.all the best, T
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On 10/14/05, simon wise simonxwise@hotmail.com wrote:
I recently ran a Gem patch for a 2 week season of a show using pd 0.38 on a similar Minimac without problems.
0.39 (Pd-0.39test2-extended-RC0 from Hans, Gem 0.90, Macmini 1.42, 1GB ram, OSX 10.4.2) seems to be stable as well - but [pix_movie] seems broken - it plays a very zoomed-in version of quicktime movies (all codecs that I have tried), on both the Minimac and my much slower old Powerbook (OSX 10.4.2). [pix_film] works fine. The rest of the patch seems fine.
Is it zoomed in to the point that it is only one pixel? That would indicate using rectangle textures but feeding normalized 0..1 texture coordinates. There should not be any difference between the way pix_movie and pix_film handle texture coordinates.
[openpanel] also seems to stop responding occasionally, though only when I am testing things, never in performance - I think this is when I have a file open with [textfile], then try to open the same file again with [openpanel] - but I am trying to isolate the problem a bit better.
I get this as well on 10.4 and a message like 'bad directory " "' or the like.
The Macmini has been a great (and not expensive) way to run projectors except for one big problem - I only have clumsy workarounds to get fullscreen images to the single main display. Today I discovered the best yet - but it is still a mess:
OroborOSX has the option of "hide menu and dock" for a presentation mode, it also has the option to "interleave X11 and Aqua windows" so with Gem running fullscreen I switch to OroborOSX then use Expose (all windows) and pick the Gem window
-Gem is now the frontmost window -OroborOSX remains in focus so there is no menu or dock visible (and pd does not put its other windows in front of the gem window) -and the gem window does not get moved down (exposing its titlebar) as usually happens when the other pd windows are hidden or the Gem window is the last Aqua window open.
(all my control is via midi so I don't need pd in focus - but even using -nogui the terminal window stays in front of the Gem window and if that is hidden the Gem window is moved down to show its title bar).
It is clumsy, but it works.
This has been addressed in CVS, and adds the ability to show and hide the menubar and Dock.
On 16 Oct 2005, at 12:18 PM, chris clepper wrote:
On 10/14/05, simon wise simonxwise@hotmail.com wrote:
0.39 (Pd-0.39test2-extended-RC0 from Hans, Gem 0.90, Macmini 1.42, 1GB ram, OSX 10.4.2) seems to be stable as well - but [pix_movie] seems broken - it plays a very zoomed-in version of quicktime movies (all codecs that I have tried), on both the Minimac and my much slower old Powerbook (OSX 10.4.2). [pix_film] works fine.
Is it zoomed in to the point that it is only one pixel? That would indicate using rectangle textures but feeding normalized 0..1 texture coordinates. There should not be any difference between the way pix_movie and pix_film handle texture coordinates.
it seems to be only one pixel - at least the whole window is one even
colour. It isn't the centre pixel - but it is somewhere near the
middle. pix_film and pix_movie definitely behave differently (they
are both fine on pd 0.38) - see attached patch.
The Macmini has been a great (and not expensive) way to run projectors except for one big problem - I only have clumsy workarounds to get fullscreen images to the single main display.
This has been addressed in CVS, and adds the ability to show and hide the menubar and Dock.
great! I'll switch to the CVS version as soon as possible
Simon
hello,
i am interested in fullscreen display on a macmini. is there another
way to achieve this without the orobor workaround? i need it for a
setup in a gallery so it should be easy to handle.
thanks for any hints
de
Am 14.10.2005 um 19:46 schrieb simon wise:
I recently ran a Gem patch for a 2 week season of a show using pd
0.38 on a similar Minimac without problems.0.39 (Pd-0.39test2-extended-RC0 from Hans, Gem 0.90, Macmini 1.42,
1GB ram, OSX 10.4.2) seems to be stable as well - but [pix_movie]
seems broken - it plays a very zoomed-in version of quicktime
movies (all codecs that I have tried), on both the Minimac and my
much slower old Powerbook (OSX 10.4.2). [pix_film] works fine. The
rest of the patch seems fine.[openpanel] also seems to stop responding occasionally, though only
when I am testing things, never in performance - I think this is
when I have a file open with [textfile], then try to open the same
file again with [openpanel] - but I am trying to isolate the
problem a bit better.The Macmini has been a great (and not expensive) way to run
projectors except for one big problem - I only have clumsy
workarounds to get fullscreen images to the single main display.
Today I discovered the best yet - but it is still a mess:OroborOSX has the option of "hide menu and dock" for a presentation
mode, it also has the option to "interleave X11 and Aqua windows"
so with Gem running fullscreen I switch to OroborOSX then use
Expose (all windows) and pick the Gem window-Gem is now the frontmost window -OroborOSX remains in focus so there is no menu or dock visible
(and pd does not put its other windows in front of the gem window) -and the gem window does not get moved down (exposing its titlebar)
as usually happens when the other pd windows are hidden or the Gem
window is the last Aqua window open.(all my control is via midi so I don't need pd in focus - but even
using -nogui the terminal window stays in front of the Gem window
and if that is hidden the Gem window is moved down to show its
title bar).It is clumsy, but it works.
Simon
On 5 Oct 2005, at 3:35 AM, Thomas Grill wrote:
jmmmp schrieb:
Hello list,
a friend of mine with not so much experience in pd wants to use
one of my patches in a concert, but had bad luck with the
installation of pd. I can't help him, because we're 1000 Km
apart and I use windows, he OsX. Has this happened to anybody
before?yes, the pd 0.39 version crashes reliably on my Minimac. Haven't
had time to look into it.all the best, T
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Hi list,
chris mentioned that in the CVS (I guess the GemCVS) this is solved.
how do you control to show/hide the menue in the GemCVS version?
max
Am 23.10.2005 um 12:38 schrieb marie blender:
hello,
i am interested in fullscreen display on a macmini. is there
another way to achieve this without the orobor workaround? i need
it for a setup in a gallery so it should be easy to handle.thanks for any hints
de
Am 14.10.2005 um 19:46 schrieb simon wise:
I recently ran a Gem patch for a 2 week season of a show using pd
0.38 on a similar Minimac without problems.0.39 (Pd-0.39test2-extended-RC0 from Hans, Gem 0.90, Macmini 1.42,
1GB ram, OSX 10.4.2) seems to be stable as well - but [pix_movie]
seems broken - it plays a very zoomed-in version of quicktime
movies (all codecs that I have tried), on both the Minimac and my
much slower old Powerbook (OSX 10.4.2). [pix_film] works fine. The
rest of the patch seems fine.[openpanel] also seems to stop responding occasionally, though
only when I am testing things, never in performance - I think this
is when I have a file open with [textfile], then try to open the
same file again with [openpanel] - but I am trying to isolate the
problem a bit better.The Macmini has been a great (and not expensive) way to run
projectors except for one big problem - I only have clumsy
workarounds to get fullscreen images to the single main display.
Today I discovered the best yet - but it is still a mess:OroborOSX has the option of "hide menu and dock" for a
presentation mode, it also has the option to "interleave X11 and
Aqua windows" so with Gem running fullscreen I switch to OroborOSX
then use Expose (all windows) and pick the Gem window-Gem is now the frontmost window -OroborOSX remains in focus so there is no menu or dock visible
(and pd does not put its other windows in front of the gem window) -and the gem window does not get moved down (exposing its
titlebar) as usually happens when the other pd windows are hidden
or the Gem window is the last Aqua window open.(all my control is via midi so I don't need pd in focus - but even
using -nogui the terminal window stays in front of the Gem window
and if that is hidden the Gem window is moved down to show its
title bar).It is clumsy, but it works.
Simon
On 5 Oct 2005, at 3:35 AM, Thomas Grill wrote:
jmmmp schrieb:
Hello list,
a friend of mine with not so much experience in pd wants to use
one of my patches in a concert, but had bad luck with the
installation of pd. I can't help him, because we're 1000 Km
apart and I use windows, he OsX. Has this happened to anybody
before?
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chris clepper -
jmmmp -
marie blender -
Max Neupert -
simon wise -
Thomas Grill