Hej!!
I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on the
web. I need [scale] object.
I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation.
thank you in advance!
rph-r
Oh, and same for mrpeach...
Le 19/09/2023 à 23:33, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Hej!! I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on the web. I need [scale] object. I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation.
thank you in advance!
rph-r
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Ok, I managed to create my own [scale] (attached).
but for mrpeach? I need OSC collection. What is the alternative?
rph-r
Raphael Raccuia rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Oh, and same for mrpeach...
Le 19/09/2023 à 23:33, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Hej!! I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on
the web. I need [scale] object. I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation.thank you in advance!
rph-r
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I hit the same problem when trying to run a project on a friend's M1 MacBook. I have compiled "maxlib" and "mrpeach" for M1, but haven't bothered uploading it to Deken. Maybe I manage to do it tonight (before I forget again).
Christof
On 20.09.2023 12:52, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com wrote:
Ok, I managed to create my own [scale] (attached).
but for mrpeach? I need OSC collection. What is the alternative?
rph-r
Raphael Raccuia rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Oh, and same for mrpeach...
Le 19/09/2023 à 23:33, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Hej!! I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on the web. I need [scale] object. I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation.
thank you in advance!
rph-r
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On Wed, 2023-09-20 at 13:09 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
I hit the same problem when trying to run a project on a friend's M1 MacBook. I have compiled "maxlib" and "mrpeach" for M1, but haven't bothered uploading it to Deken. Maybe I manage to do it tonight (before I forget again).
Both, maxlib and mrpeach, are not actively maintained anymore.
mrpeach was split into separate repos:
- binfile
- slip
- osc
- iemnet (forked from mrpeach/net) which is compatible and definitely more mature
From what I can tell, there isn't a simple replacement for maxlib, but from what I remember, it doesn't really provide anything useful nowadays.
@Raphael, since you seem to need osc from mrpeach, I advise you to convert your patches to use the osc library directly. Even osc is not strictly necessary nowadays since the introduction [oscformat] and [oscparse] in Pd vanilla.
@Christof, while it is a nice effort to provice arm64/macOS builds of mrpreach and maxlib, it also keeps the confusion about their maintenance state alive. I, personally, prefer to rather keep things clear and help people do the migration. At least, I believe that it is more sustainable on the long run. Please consider my thoughts, but in no way would I grant myself the authority to tell people what to do.
Roman
Christof On 20.09.2023 12:52, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com wrote:
Ok, I managed to create my own [scale] (attached). but for mrpeach? I need OSC collection. What is the alternative? rph-r Raphael Raccuia rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Oh, and same for mrpeach... Le 19/09/2023 à 23:33, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Hej!! I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on the web. I need [scale] object. I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation. thank you in advance! rph-r _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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From what I can tell, there isn't a simple replacement for maxlib, but from what I remember, it doesn't really provide anything useful nowadays.
Personally, I have many projects that use [maxlib/gauss]. There is probably a replacement *somewhere* but I didn't bother.
"mrpeach" also has [midifile], which I use regularly. Is there are good (and stable) replacement object?
@Christof, while it is a nice effort to provice arm64/macOS builds of mrpreach and maxlib, it also keeps the confusion about their maintenance state alive.
Someone might pick them up and start maintaining them (which has happenend in the past). In fact, [mrpeach] has been maintained until recently. (Martin Peach has passed away two years ago, sadly.)
In general, there is nothing wrong with making older library versions available for newer platforms. After all, some projects pin their dependencies to specific versions and don't want to risk updates, as they might cause regressions.
I, personally, prefer to rather keep things clear and help people do the migration.
While I agree that *new* projects should probably try to migrate, there are lots of *existing* projects that rely on these libraries. People might want to run these existing projects on newer platforms, but they can't afford or don't have the skills to migrate, so it would be nice if the libraries were available on Deken.
Christof
Christof On 20.09.2023 12:52, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com wrote:
Ok, I managed to create my own [scale] (attached).
but for mrpeach? I need OSC collection. What is the alternative?
rph-r
Raphael Raccuia rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Oh, and same for mrpeach...
Le 19/09/2023 à 23:33, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Hej!! I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on the web. I need [scale] object. I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation.
thank you in advance!
rph-r
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Thank you Christof, that would be great!
In the meanwhile I try with iemnet and osc, but if tomorrow I can use
the original patch again it's much better.
So you confirm it's because of M1.
rph-r
Christof Ressi info@christofressi.com a écrit :
I hit the same problem when trying to run a project on a friend's M1
MacBook. I have compiled "maxlib" and "mrpeach" for M1, but haven't
bothered uploading it to Deken. Maybe I manage to do it tonight
(before I forget again).Christof On 20.09.2023 12:52, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com wrote:
Ok, I managed to create my own [scale] (attached).
but for mrpeach? I need OSC collection. What is the alternative?
rph-r
Raphael Raccuia rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Oh, and same for mrpeach...
Le 19/09/2023 à 23:33, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com a écrit :
Hej!! I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on
the web. I need [scale] object. I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation.thank you in advance!
rph-r
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On 9/20/23 14:47, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com wrote:
Thank you Christof, that would be great! In the meanwhile I try with iemnet and osc, but if tomorrow I can use the original patch again it's much better. So you confirm it's because of M1.
well, maxlib is available just fine for macOS, e.g. http://deken.puredata.info/info?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpuredata.info%2FMembers%2Ffjkraan%2Fsoftware%2Fmaxlib%2F1.5.8%2Fmaxlib%5Bv1.5.8%5D%28Darwin-amd64-32%29%28Darwin-i386-32%29%28Sources%29.dek
this issue is, that these binaries are for macOS/intel, and you have a macOS/Arm: so yes, all this is "because of M1".
apart form the already given solutions (replace these old libraries with something modern; wait for some kind soul to provide M1 binaries; ...) there i can think of two more options:
- you can run Pd through Rosetta to emulate an Intel machine.
this will allow you to use the existing macOS/Intel binaries. of course, performance is worse than when using native binaries, but that might not be a problem.
- you could install linux on your Mac (e.g. Debian/bananas)¹
gfsadr IOhannes
¹ and while i hate to admit it, currently this might not be the best option; e.g. i do not know whether Debian/bananas manages to do more than just booting the system :-P
thank you all of you,
I installed iemnet and OSC, it works. It's ok for me to use them, it's just I always thought mrpeach was the one for OSC... for maxlib I only need [scale], and the abstraction I made works well.
For the story: we use a mac because we need both max/msp and PD for this project. We also have a PC and I would have preferred Linux with Jack but max sadly was never ported. We tried with windows but jack was highly unstable and asio doesn't accept more than one app connecting to it.
rph-r
Le 20/09/2023 à 15:51, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 9/20/23 14:47, rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com wrote:
Thank you Christof, that would be great! In the meanwhile I try with iemnet and osc, but if tomorrow I can use the original patch again it's much better. So you confirm it's because of M1.
well, maxlib is available just fine for macOS, e.g. http://deken.puredata.info/info?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpuredata.info%2FMembers%2Ffjkraan%2Fsoftware%2Fmaxlib%2F1.5.8%2Fmaxlib%5Bv1.5.8%5D%28Darwin-amd64-32%29%28Darwin-i386-32%29%28Sources%29.dek
this issue is, that these binaries are for macOS/intel, and you have a macOS/Arm: so yes, all this is "because of M1".
apart form the already given solutions (replace these old libraries with something modern; wait for some kind soul to provide M1 binaries; ...) there i can think of two more options:
- you can run Pd through Rosetta to emulate an Intel machine.
this will allow you to use the existing macOS/Intel binaries. of course, performance is worse than when using native binaries, but that might not be a problem.
- you could install linux on your Mac (e.g. Debian/bananas)¹
gfsadr IOhannes
¹ and while i hate to admit it, currently this might not be the best option; e.g. i do not know whether Debian/bananas manages to do more than just booting the system :-P
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