The Pd 0.56-0 application compiled for Macintosh OS 10.10 or newer, available for download at https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm, is contained in an APFS-formatted .dmg disk image, and neither OS 10.10 nor OS 10.11 can mount APFS disk images. Perhaps some charitable soul will make the application available in an HFS-formatted disk image, the way previous versions of Pd were?
(Yes, I admit to being too lazy and clueless to compile it for myself.)
Thanks in advance!
Mike Green
Am 31. Juli 2025 19:01:32 MESZ schrieb Michael Green mgreen4671@sbcglobal.net:
The Pd 0.56-0 application compiled for Macintosh OS 10.10 or newer, available for download at https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm, is contained in an APFS-formatted .dmg disk image, and neither OS 10.10 nor OS 10.11 can mount APFS disk images. Perhaps some charitable soul will make the application available in an HFS-formatted disk image, the way previous versions of Pd were?
yikes.
if the DMG is the one produced by the CI @ iem, then I'm a bit at a loss on what would have changed...
in the meantime: I know that I can extract DMGs on Linux using "7z" (https://7-zip.org/), so you could probably try to use that on macOS as well.
mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes
Am 31. Juli 2025 19:51:44 MESZ schrieb "IOhannes m zmölnig via Pd-list" pd-list@lists.iem.at:
Am 31. Juli 2025 19:01:32 MESZ schrieb Michael Green mgreen4671@sbcglobal.net:
The Pd 0.56-0 application compiled for Macintosh OS 10.10 or newer, available for download at https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm, is contained in an APFS-formatted .dmg disk image, and neither OS 10.10 nor OS 10.11 can mount APFS disk images. Perhaps some charitable soul will make the application available in an HFS-formatted disk image, the way previous versions of Pd were?
yikes.
if the DMG is the one produced by the CI @ iem, then I'm a bit at a loss on what would have changed...
hmm. on rereading, I'm not sure whether I understand the problem.
the iem-ci (maintained by yours truly) has been producing DMGs for some time, but this is targeting amd64+arm64, that is: "newer" systems.
afaict, you are interested in legacy builds for "older" macOS instead (I can never keep track of all those versions, let alone codenames).
I think, that no builds for such older macOS have been produced since Pd-0.53.
afaik the real issue is, that the hardware to run such old (developer) systems is starting to fall apart, and it is becoming harder and harder to create binaries for such systems (given that apple is pushing the developer tools to not be able to produce compatible binaries).
also I think that the number of actual users of such legacy systems is rather small, so it's not clear whether it is really worth the effort from a dev pov (I can obviously only speak for myself, and I'm not a Mac guy - so my cost for providing such binaries might be higher than expected).
the question is, whether the community (aka: *you*) could provide binaries if they are still wanted.
mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes
Dear IOhannes,
No, I am interested in the current build, which, according to the text of Miller’s download page https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm, should run on systems as old as 10.10 (Yosemite). I currently run Pd 0.55-2, downloaded last year from the same page, under system 10.11 (El Capitan). So a compiled Pd 0.56-0 that will run under 10.11 apparently exists, but it can’t be accessed and installed under 10.11 because of the APFS format of the disk image.
Thanks, and sorry for any confusion,
Mike Green
On Jul 31, 2025, at 1:09 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at wrote:
Am 31. Juli 2025 19:51:44 MESZ schrieb "IOhannes m zmölnig via Pd-list" pd-list@lists.iem.at:
Am 31. Juli 2025 19:01:32 MESZ schrieb Michael Green mgreen4671@sbcglobal.net:
The Pd 0.56-0 application compiled for Macintosh OS 10.10 or newer, available for download at https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm, is contained in an APFS-formatted .dmg disk image, and neither OS 10.10 nor OS 10.11 can mount APFS disk images. Perhaps some charitable soul will make the application available in an HFS-formatted disk image, the way previous versions of Pd were?
yikes.
if the DMG is the one produced by the CI @ iem, then I'm a bit at a loss on what would have changed...
hmm. on rereading, I'm not sure whether I understand the problem.
the iem-ci (maintained by yours truly) has been producing DMGs for some time, but this is targeting amd64+arm64, that is: "newer" systems.
afaict, you are interested in legacy builds for "older" macOS instead (I can never keep track of all those versions, let alone codenames).
I think, that no builds for such older macOS have been produced since Pd-0.53.
afaik the real issue is, that the hardware to run such old (developer) systems is starting to fall apart, and it is becoming harder and harder to create binaries for such systems (given that apple is pushing the developer tools to not be able to produce compatible binaries).
also I think that the number of actual users of such legacy systems is rather small, so it's not clear whether it is really worth the effort from a dev pov (I can obviously only speak for myself, and I'm not a Mac guy - so my cost for providing such binaries might be higher than expected).
the question is, whether the community (aka: *you*) could provide binaries if they are still wanted.
mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes
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Am 31. Juli 2025 20:51:54 MESZ schrieb Michael Green mgreen4671@sbcglobal.net:
Dear IOhannes,
No, I am interested in the current build, which, according to the text of Miller’s download page https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm, should run on systems as old as 10.10 (Yosemite).
I'm afraid that "Macintosh OS 10.10 or newer" really means "this is our new-style app, and we are pretty sure that it won't run on older versions of macOS", and the claim of "10.10" is not really tested for :-/
I currently run Pd 0.55-2, downloaded last year from the same page, under system 10.11 (El Capitan).
could you verify, whether you can still download and open the Pd-0.55-2 package (there's a link for "all software")? if so, could you send us the actual download link you used?
sorry for causing inconvenience, but I think this is much easier for you to test than for me.
mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes