hi!

ypatios(e)k dio:

That's a VERY interesting idea... :-D Think you could publish some external?

sure, this will require pyext to work.

As for the copyright issues, why not requesting such a "written consent from Yahoo!" ? They may find it a reasonable use. Maybe...

i dont belive so :) specially since it might end up being used by anyone from anywhere ...

enrike

2008/6/25 altern <altern2@gmail.com mailto:altern2@gmail.com>:

hi

anyone knows of an online worldwide forecast service? I am developing
some python scripts with Pyext external that retrieve different type of
data from the net into PD.

At the moment i have been using yahoo weather, this is quite handy
because they have RSS feed that can be easily manipulated from python
and returned into PD.

Currently i have scripts that tell me the external IP of my computer and
 another one that uses the IP to retrieve geolocation data (lat, long,
nearby city, country ), using this i think i should be able to ask yahoo
for weather data of an specific city and country and from there access
the RSS.

However I think there are some copyright issues with yahoo weather. I
read a notice in the HTML source of yahoo weather saying that this data
is not to be used without permission
" ...You are prohibited from using or repurposing this data in any way
without express written consent from Yahoo! ..."

I guess i could pretend i did not see the notice but maybe there is some
worldwide forecast service that would allow me to use the data?

thanks

enrike

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Jack(e)k dio:

Le 25 juin 08 à 10:59, altern a écrit :

...

hi

anyone knows of an online worldwide forecast service? I am developing some python scripts with Pyext external that retrieve different type of data from the net into PD.

At the moment i have been using yahoo weather, this is quite handy because they have RSS feed that can be easily manipulated from python and returned into PD.

Currently i have scripts that tell me the external IP of my computer and another one that uses the IP to retrieve geolocation data (lat, long, nearby city, country ), using this i think i should be able to ask yahoo for weather data of an specific city and country and from there access the RSS.

However I think there are some copyright issues with yahoo weather. I read a notice in the HTML source of yahoo weather saying that this data is not to be used without permission " ...You are prohibited from using or repurposing this data in any way without express written consent from Yahoo! ..."

It seems to be a sort of blabla from Yahoo. I think if you don't make business, there is no problem. The only problem i know with yahoo is that they can prohibit your access to their website after several requests during 1 days (with your IP). I often 'hacked' the yahoo financial site for an installation using PHP, MySQL and PD. I never had judicial problem. (i was living in france and take data from US yahoo financial website).

ok, so one has to be careful with not overloading them

You can use also www.accuweather.com. I use this site to make a small install (in real time) with datas using the wind and temperature. I never had problem. ++

thanks for the link, i am at the minute testing BBC weather, i can send a form witih the name of the city i am interested in and then parse the resulting page to get the ID. This works fine, i am now trying to parse the XML data. The "only" issue with this is if there are several cities with the same name, it offers you several choices, currently i am going for the first one.

enrike

Jack

...

I guess i could pretend i did not see the notice but maybe there is some worldwide forecast service that would allow me to use the data?

thanks

enrike

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hi hans

thanks for the link, i checked it briefly yesterday, not sure if i will be able to find the part of code i need, it seems a bit too bit and it is C, probably easier to do it myself in python.

The weather.com city codes look like the same as weather.yahoo.com it seems to me that they both access the same system to get the data. thats interesting, i found already several weather forecast systems that are actually the same in the background.

enrike

Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio:

This program for Mac OS X gets the data from weather.com, I think:

http://heat-meteo.sourceforge.net/

It's open source, so you could get the parsing code.

.hc

On Jun 25, 2008, at 10:59 AM, altern wrote:

...

hi

anyone knows of an online worldwide forecast service? I am developing some python scripts with Pyext external that retrieve different type of data from the net into PD.

At the moment i have been using yahoo weather, this is quite handy because they have RSS feed that can be easily manipulated from python and returned into PD.

Currently i have scripts that tell me the external IP of my computer and another one that uses the IP to retrieve geolocation data (lat, long, nearby city, country ), using this i think i should be able to ask yahoo for weather data of an specific city and country and from there access the RSS.

However I think there are some copyright issues with yahoo weather. I read a notice in the HTML source of yahoo weather saying that this data is not to be used without permission " ...You are prohibited from using or repurposing this data in any way without express written consent from Yahoo! ..."

I guess i could pretend i did not see the notice but maybe there is some worldwide forecast service that would allow me to use the data?

thanks

enrike

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B. Bogart(e)k dio:

Hey there,

Are you using the data for a performance or installation?

I used live weather data (from an APRS packet radio gateway) parsed from a website.

It was the worst mistake I made.

The installation ran for a couple years but had four problems:

1. The format of the webpage changed, I rewrote it.

2. The power went down.

3. The power went down again.

4. The website went down.

Now I know not to depend on any external infrastructure.

no it is just a set of patches that should be used in different situations by other people. they should be aware of this potential risks of live internet access. thanks for the suggestions anyway.

enrike

Using your own weather station would be very stable (they are not as expensive as they sound). Or perhaps there is some more stable way to get at the APRS data than a website.

APRS is nice because there are hundreds of weather stations all over the world, are interlinked by packet radio network. The problem in my case was the internet gateway.

.b.

altern wrote:

...

hi

anyone knows of an online worldwide forecast service? I am developing some python scripts with Pyext external that retrieve different type of data from the net into PD.

At the moment i have been using yahoo weather, this is quite handy because they have RSS feed that can be easily manipulated from python and returned into PD.

Currently i have scripts that tell me the external IP of my computer and another one that uses the IP to retrieve geolocation data (lat, long, nearby city, country ), using this i think i should be able to ask yahoo for weather data of an specific city and country and from there access the RSS.

However I think there are some copyright issues with yahoo weather. I read a notice in the HTML source of yahoo weather saying that this data is not to be used without permission " ...You are prohibited from using or repurposing this data in any way without express written consent from Yahoo! ..."

I guess i could pretend i did not see the notice but maybe there is some worldwide forecast service that would allow me to use the data?

thanks

enrike

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