i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
For Linux, the lp4pole LADSPA plugin (http://blop.sourceforge.net/) is really nice. It sounds a lot like moog~ from ggee but seems to be better tuned and more stable. BLOP's bandlimited oscillators are excellent, btw.
Ben
On Saturday 09 August 2003 1:56 pm, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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Ben Saylor bensaylor@hotpop.com wrote: For Linux, the lp4pole LADSPA plugin (http://blop.sourceforge.net/) is really nice. It sounds a lot like moog~ from ggee but seems to be better tuned and more stable. BLOP's bandlimited oscillators are excellent, btw.
Ben
On Saturday 09 August 2003 1:56 pm, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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Ben Saylor bensaylor@hotpop.com wrote: For Linux, the lp4pole LADSPA plugin (http://blop.sourceforge.net/) is really nice. It sounds a lot like moog~ from ggee but seems to be better tuned and more stable. BLOP's bandlimited oscillators are excellent, btw.
Ben
On Saturday 09 August 2003 1:56 pm, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD externals package available at http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/index.php
It's quite potent - I've used it to create an approximation of the synthesis method for an 808 bass drum (a pulse driving a highly resonant filter).
I suppose you can get a seperate copy of svf~ somewhere, but you'd better get the SoundForge package - it's kind of like Christmas time for PD.
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:56:01PM -0700, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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I guess they haven't deleted my web space yet :)
http://www.macalester.edu/~bsaylor/svf~.tar.gz
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:44 am, matthijs@devdsp.net wrote:
The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD externals package available at http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/index.php
It's quite potent - I've used it to create an approximation of the synthesis method for an 808 bass drum (a pulse driving a highly resonant filter).
I suppose you can get a seperate copy of svf~ somewhere, but you'd better get the SoundForge package - it's kind of like Christmas time for PD.
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:56:01PM -0700, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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If this your filter - thanks for a great external I (over)use a lot!
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 01:01:35PM -0800, Ben Saylor wrote:
I guess they haven't deleted my web space yet :)
http://www.macalester.edu/~bsaylor/svf~.tar.gz
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:44 am, matthijs@devdsp.net wrote:
The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD externals package available at http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/index.php
It's quite potent - I've used it to create an approximation of the synthesis method for an 808 bass drum (a pulse driving a highly resonant filter).
I suppose you can get a seperate copy of svf~ somewhere, but you'd better get the SoundForge package - it's kind of like Christmas time for PD.
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:56:01PM -0700, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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Thanks, I'm glad it's useful.. I think the filter was originally written by Andrew Simper who posted it to music-dsp (musicdsp.org).
Actually, since it does low pass, high pass, etc. it may suit Josh's needs better than the lp4pole plugin I mentioned.
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:29 pm, you wrote:
If this your filter - thanks for a great external I (over)use a lot!
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 01:01:35PM -0800, Ben Saylor wrote:
I guess they haven't deleted my web space yet :)
http://www.macalester.edu/~bsaylor/svf~.tar.gz
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:44 am, matthijs@devdsp.net wrote:
The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD externals package available at http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/index.php
It's quite potent - I've used it to create an approximation of the synthesis method for an 808 bass drum (a pulse driving a highly resonant filter).
I suppose you can get a seperate copy of svf~ somewhere, but you'd better get the SoundForge package - it's kind of like Christmas time for PD.
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:56:01PM -0700, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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for this installation i'm running on linux so i'll try this one out soon :)
have you ever looked at compiling it for windows? i like to keep my patches cross platform as much as possible.
thanks for the extern ben (and everyone else who responded)!
-josh
Ben Saylor wrote:
Thanks, I'm glad it's useful.. I think the filter was originally written by Andrew Simper who posted it to music-dsp (musicdsp.org).
Actually, since it does low pass, high pass, etc. it may suit Josh's needs better than the lp4pole plugin I mentioned.
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:29 pm, you wrote:
If this your filter - thanks for a great external I (over)use a lot!
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 01:01:35PM -0800, Ben Saylor wrote:
I guess they haven't deleted my web space yet :)
http://www.macalester.edu/~bsaylor/svf~.tar.gz
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:44 am, matthijs@devdsp.net wrote:
The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD externals package available at http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/index.php
It's quite potent - I've used it to create an approximation of the synthesis method for an 808 bass drum (a pulse driving a highly resonant filter).
I suppose you can get a seperate copy of svf~ somewhere, but you'd better get the SoundForge package - it's kind of like Christmas time for PD.
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:56:01PM -0700, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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Eric Skogen has a version compiled for Windows at http://audionerd.com/.
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 2:22 pm, Josh Steiner wrote:
for this installation i'm running on linux so i'll try this one out soon :)
have you ever looked at compiling it for windows? i like to keep my patches cross platform as much as possible.
thanks for the extern ben (and everyone else who responded)!
-josh
It should also be part of the Windows pd-externals package. You can get an old-ish copy from http://pure-data.org
.hc
On Sunday, Aug 10, 2003, at 18:57 America/New_York, Ben Saylor wrote:
Eric Skogen has a version compiled for Windows at http://audionerd.com/.
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 2:22 pm, Josh Steiner wrote:
for this installation i'm running on linux so i'll try this one out soon :)
have you ever looked at compiling it for windows? i like to keep my patches cross platform as much as possible.
thanks for the extern ben (and everyone else who responded)!
-josh
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sorry, can't find the windows version anywhere for svf~.dll : has anyone got a link? cheers,
matt
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It should also be part of the Windows pd-externals package. You can get an old-ish copy from http://pure-data.org
.hc
On Sunday, Aug 10, 2003, at 18:57 America/New_York, Ben Saylor wrote:
Eric Skogen has a version compiled for Windows at http://audionerd.com/.
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 2:22 pm, Josh Steiner wrote:
for this installation i'm running on linux so i'll try this one out soon :)
have you ever looked at compiling it for windows? i like to keep my patches cross platform as much as possible.
thanks for the extern ben (and everyone else who responded)!
-josh
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it should be up at audionerd.com. try:
http://www.audionerd.com/projects/pd/svf~.zip
matthew jones wrote:
sorry, can't find the windows version anywhere for svf~.dll : has anyone got a link? cheers,
matt
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It should also be part of the Windows pd-externals package. You can get an old-ish copy from http://pure-data.org
.hc
On Sunday, Aug 10, 2003, at 18:57 America/New_York, Ben Saylor wrote:
Eric Skogen has a version compiled for Windows at http://audionerd.com/.
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 2:22 pm, Josh Steiner wrote:
for this installation i'm running on linux so i'll try this one out soon :)
have you ever looked at compiling it for windows? i like to keep my patches cross platform as much as possible.
thanks for the extern ben (and everyone else who responded)!
-josh
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rock on, just tested it out in my patch and it sounds great! thanks!
-josh
Ben Saylor wrote:
Thanks, I'm glad it's useful.. I think the filter was originally written by Andrew Simper who posted it to music-dsp (musicdsp.org).
Actually, since it does low pass, high pass, etc. it may suit Josh's needs better than the lp4pole plugin I mentioned.
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:29 pm, you wrote:
If this your filter - thanks for a great external I (over)use a lot!
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 01:01:35PM -0800, Ben Saylor wrote:
I guess they haven't deleted my web space yet :)
http://www.macalester.edu/~bsaylor/svf~.tar.gz
Ben
On Sunday 10 August 2003 1:44 am, matthijs@devdsp.net wrote:
The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD externals package available at http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/index.php
It's quite potent - I've used it to create an approximation of the synthesis method for an 808 bass drum (a pulse driving a highly resonant filter).
I suppose you can get a seperate copy of svf~ somewhere, but you'd better get the SoundForge package - it's kind of like Christmas time for PD.
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:56:01PM -0700, Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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hi Ben,
ok, this is just my pestering again (someone is going to show me a noose soon). There is an svf~ to be released in the cyclone's next snapshot. Differences are
. the clone has 4 outlets, instead of a configurable single outlet
. the clone has no additional resonance inlet (just the q one)
. the clone does no oversampling, uses simpler formulae for coefs (calculated once per block), etc., which all makes a difference of max 340 clones against max 42 of yours svf~s on my machine (think about using it in polyphonic instruments).
. neither is fine-tuned, but the clone does have some protection against over-blowing.
In the max/msp land there is both the fast, 4-out svf~, and oversampled, 1-out (and fine-tuned) 2up_svf~. Btw. the latter is open-source (in a way).
Krzysztof
Ben Saylor wrote:
Thanks, I'm glad it's useful.. I think the filter was originally written by Andrew Simper who posted it to music-dsp (musicdsp.org).
...
The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD
Sounds good. I know my svf~ is relatively CPU-hungry, but I haven't gotten around to optimizing it - just kinda abandoned it instead :)
Ben
On Monday 11 August 2003 2:50 am, Krzysztof Czaja wrote:
hi Ben,
ok, this is just my pestering again (someone is going to show me a noose soon). There is an svf~ to be released in the cyclone's next snapshot. Differences are
. the clone has 4 outlets, instead of a configurable single outlet
. the clone has no additional resonance inlet (just the q one)
. the clone does no oversampling, uses simpler formulae for coefs (calculated once per block), etc., which all makes a difference of max 340 clones against max 42 of yours svf~s on my machine (think about using it in polyphonic instruments).
. neither is fine-tuned, but the clone does have some protection against over-blowing.
In the max/msp land there is both the fast, 4-out svf~, and oversampled, 1-out (and fine-tuned) 2up_svf~. Btw. the latter is open-source (in a way).
Krzysztof
Ben Saylor wrote:
Thanks, I'm glad it's useful.. I think the filter was originally written by Andrew Simper who posted it to music-dsp (musicdsp.org).
...
The svf~ external is quite nice (IIRC, it's a PD port of a LADSPA plugin by Steve Harris). You can get it as part of the PD
Hallo,
Josh Steiner hat gesagt: // Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere?
You want this moog~ variation:
http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/~dfl/pd/index.htm
Although this has a name conflict with Gunether's moog~ it just sounds phatter than anything else. There also is a problem with multiple instances of this moog~ inside a patch: They interfere with each other for some reason. I didn't look into this yet, but it should be possible to fix that. Probably too many "static" functions in the source code.
You can set it to be in high-, low- or bandpass mode.
ciao
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Thanks for the link ... I'll check it out (though, as a rule, I'm not too fond of "moog" filters).
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 12:43:54PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Josh Steiner hat gesagt: // Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere?
You want this moog~ variation:
http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/~dfl/pd/index.htm
Although this has a name conflict with Gunether's moog~ it just sounds phatter than anything else. There also is a problem with multiple instances of this moog~ inside a patch: They interfere with each other for some reason. I didn't look into this yet, but it should be possible to fix that. Probably too many "static" functions in the source code.
You can set it to be in high-, low- or bandpass mode.
ciao
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have you tried some compression after the filter? it can smooth the sound out a bit. oh, and noisy signals are always more fun to filter!
Josh Steiner wrote:
i need a really nice sounding filter with control over the Q. ... i've tried piecing one together from [lop~] and [hip~] and [vcf~] but i can never get around it having a dead, muddy sound, i'd like one that sounds really warm like the default one in fruity loops or on many synthesizers.
does anyone either have some tips on how to do this myself, a patch where they've made a nice one, or pointers to a good one in an external somewhere? i'm looking fro both low and high pass filters.
cheers,
josh
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