--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd? To: "PD list" pd-list@iem.at, "Phil Stone" pkstone@ucdavis.edu Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:11 AM
--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Phil Stone pkstone@ucdavis.edu wrote:
From: Phil Stone pkstone@ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio
than Pd?
To: "PD list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:49 PM In addition to disagreeing vehemently with your main point (Pd is good for little more than experimentation), I find this a piss-poor acid test
for
"music that sounds good":
colet.patrice@free.fr wrote:
there is no such project that show how pd is cool
to
make people moving on the dance floor.
Phil- I dig music with compelling sounds, and I generally feel the urge to move my body to music I dig. One can use whatever test one wants to hold up some music as "genuine," and the question "does it draw people out onto the dance floor?" is just as valid as any other in this regard.
But then if the point of the acid test is to demonstrate the strengths of a visual programming paradigm for the rapid implementation of various dsp techniques to generate music, I'd say the OP's test is quite a fitting and effective "Hello World" for Pd.
-Jonathan
Btw- I don't mean "this will be a 'Hello World' for Pd at some future
point in its development." I just mean it's a good way for users to
test how flexible and expressive their software is in a live setting.
I mean let's face it-- you crash at a performance and people sit and read
their programs while you restart the program. You crash while people are
dancing, and they leave.
-Jonathan
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
Btw- I don't mean "this will be a 'Hello World' for Pd at some future
point in its development." I just mean it's a good way for users to
test how flexible and expressive their software is in a live setting.
I mean let's face it-- you crash at a performance and people sit and read
their programs while you restart the program. You crash while people are
dancing, and they leave.
-Jonathan
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ej bonitos just pasting some mustard to this topic too: in german there's a saying "wenn der bauer nicht schwimmern kann liegts an der badehose" translated somehow: "when the farmer can't swim it's because of his bathing trunks" so it's about swimming not dancing!
crossfading salutis ø
& don't forget to show your trunks!
colet.patrice@free.fr wrote:
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
Btw- I don't mean "this will be a 'Hello World' for Pd at some future point in its development." I just mean it's a good way for users to test how flexible and expressive their software is in a live setting.
I mean let's face it-- you crash at a performance and people sit and read their programs while you restart the program. You crash while people are dancing, and they leave.-Jonathan
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Hi, On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 02:18:17PM +0200, olsen wrote:
ej bonitos just pasting some mustard to this topic too: in german there's a saying "wenn der bauer nicht schwimmern kann liegts an der badehose"
I didn't know this one, it's very good. As we've started the quoting business, I recently read a saying by someone but I just cannot remember who said it and where I read it but anyways, it was something like: "Whatever you try to play with the saxophone, the outcome always sounds like jazz." There you go.
Frank
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patrice@free.fr wrote:
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by "mixing"? Then I'd be also interested in what way Pd fails and how another software (you name it) succeeds in doing it correctly. There's certainly a lot to learn for using Pd "better".
Roman
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patrice@free.fr wrote:
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by "mixing"?
Interesting, I was more concerned by the use of the word « correctly ».
For a even a simple cross-fade, any way of smoothing the output of a slider is a potential matter of personal preference, and whichever way you pick has eventual slightly different consequences on the result.
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On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 12:53 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patrice@free.fr wrote:
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by "mixing"?
Interesting, I was more concerned by the use of the word « correctly ».
I wasn't sure, if he probably meant the whole process of adjusting levels, frequencies, panoramas etc.
Roman