Maybe a digression-- If I want to just post and follow a single thread on a Mailman list, don't make me subscribe.  Don't even tell me to send straightaway and wait hours for moderation (git list tries to do this and it's broken). Just give me a hashcash web form to send my message, and then send thread responses to the email addy I specified in the form.  My CPU will thrash its way in for me.  Hell, give me an unsubscribe button so that my CPU can thrash its way off the thread for the address I specify.  (Worst case someone with a powerful machine mass unsubscribes a bunch of users who can still view the archive to see the responses-- but that costs a lot more than $0 to pull off.) My browser already eats crazy amounts of CPU by loading reams of js dependencies and (re-)laying out responsive web pages.  Burning through one more minute of CPU time is a fine cost if it means I can completely avoid a UI designed by people who spend more time staring at code than interacting with humans. -Jonathan On Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:36 AM, Fred Jan Kraan fjkraan@xs4all.nl wrote:

My translation server suggests this is an 'unsubscribe' request. But I doubt lists.iem.at understands this in Spanish. Please go to https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list and fill in your email address at 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.

The same translator in reverse:

Mi servidor de la traducción sugiere que esto sea una petición del “unsubscribe”. Pero dudo que lists.iem.at entiende esto en español. Vaya por favor a https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list y complete su email address en “Unsubscribe or edit options”. Éste significa: “deshacen suscriben o corrigen opciones”.

Fred Jan

On 2016-04-14 09:59 AM, Pia Sommer wrote:

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Well Debian has Mailman, and Mailman has all the tools I need to make it work. Would you be open to using a future version of Mailman with this feature? -Jonathan

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 3:41 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:

On 2016-04-14 21:19, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:

If I want to just post and follow a single thread on a Mailman list, don't make me subscribe.  Don't even tell me to send straightaway and wait hours for moderation (git list tries to do this and it's broken). Just give me a hashcash web form to send my message, and then send thread responses to the email addy I specified in the form.

thanks for volunteering to setup the form.

as long as the hashcash can be validated via some tools found in Debian/stable, i'm pretty sure I can implement the server-side.

fgvmasdr IOhannes

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