Hi everybody!
I just got a DAC expansion board for my RPi4 but Pd doesn't see it.
https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-r-raspberry-p i-4?c=2389
Since there is no room for a sound card in such a small box and the RPi headphone out is no good it looks like the only compact way.
Can anybody point me to instruction for making Pd use these DAC expansion boards as a sound card?
They obviously don't show up in the ALSA sound options by default.
Thanks!
Ingo
- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 14:04]:
Hi everybody!
I just got a DAC expansion board for my RPi4 but Pd doesn't see it.
https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-r-raspberry-p i-4?c=2389
Since there is no room for a sound card in such a small box and the RPi headphone out is no good it looks like the only compact way.
Can anybody point me to instruction for making Pd use these DAC expansion boards as a sound card?
What do the commands $ pd -listdev $ $ cat /proc/asound/cards tell you about available cards?
What does the manufacturer of the expansion board tell you about it? Will it be a separate sound card from the built-in one? Or will the expansion merely provide the built-in one with more channels?
You might want to subscribe to the linux audio users mailing list for assistance as well.
P
cat /proc/asound/cards says --- no soundcards --- Pd doesn't see any soundcards.
I think the problem is that the DAC get its data from the GPIO pins that Pd cannot communicate with.
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
I have a very small Sounblaster card that works fine and sounds ok but it's still too large to fit inside. With the internal headphones out my software doesn't even start up.
I'm afraid that this won't even work at all with Pd . . . Has anyone ever used any of these RPi DACs?
Ingo
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:19 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 14:04]:
Hi everybody!
I just got a DAC expansion board for my RPi4 but Pd doesn't see it.
https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-r-
raspb
erry-p i-4?c=2389
Since there is no room for a sound card in such a small box and the RPi headphone out is no good it looks like the only compact way.
Can anybody point me to instruction for making Pd use these DAC expansion boards as a sound card?
What do the commands $ pd -listdev $ $ cat /proc/asound/cards tell you about available cards?
What does the manufacturer of the expansion board tell you about it? Will it be a separate sound card from the built-in one? Or will the
expansion
merely provide the built-in one with more channels?
You might want to subscribe to the linux audio users mailing list for
assistance
as well.
P
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- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 15:35]:
cat /proc/asound/cards says --- no soundcards --- Pd doesn't see any soundcards.
I think the problem is that the DAC get its data from the GPIO pins that Pd cannot communicate with.
I would ask the manufacturers of this https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-r-raspberry-p... how their sound card can be accessed or if specific drivers (called "Modules" in linux) have to be loaded.
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
This would be so complicated that I don't expect the manufacturers to force you to do this.
I guess I'll try to find out from the manufacturer if they know how to do it. I had already contacted the store where I bought it if they have any idea. I don't even know if the DAC is made by ARGON or by a 3rd party manufacturer. There's no documentation other than "Install Volumino".
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
This would be so complicated that I don't expect the manufacturers to
force
you to do this.
Not sure if it would be so complicated - of course for me it would definitely be too difficult to do, though. I think that all of those DAC expansion boards talk to the same pins. Once it's done it should be rather universal. But probably each manufacturer does its own thing - as usual!
Ingo
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:50 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 15:35]:
cat /proc/asound/cards says --- no soundcards --- Pd doesn't see any soundcards.
I think the problem is that the DAC get its data from the GPIO pins that Pd cannot communicate with.
I would ask the manufacturers of this https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-r- raspberry-pi-4?c=2389 how their sound card can be accessed or if specific drivers (called
"Modules"
in linux) have to be loaded.
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
This would be so complicated that I don't expect the manufacturers to
force
you to do this.
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I can confirm that the Pisound works great, but it's not a cheap solution.
On 23/9/21 4:34 μ.μ., Ingo wrote:
cat /proc/asound/cards says --- no soundcards --- Pd doesn't see any soundcards.
I think the problem is that the DAC get its data from the GPIO pins that Pd cannot communicate with.
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
I have a very small Sounblaster card that works fine and sounds ok but it's still too large to fit inside. With the internal headphones out my software doesn't even start up.
I'm afraid that this won't even work at all with Pd . . . Has anyone ever used any of these RPi DACs?
Ingo
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:19 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 14:04]:
Hi everybody!
I just got a DAC expansion board for my RPi4 but Pd doesn't see it.
https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-r-
raspb
erry-p i-4?c=2389
Since there is no room for a sound card in such a small box and the RPi headphone out is no good it looks like the only compact way.
Can anybody point me to instruction for making Pd use these DAC expansion boards as a sound card?
What do the commands $ pd -listdev $ $ cat /proc/asound/cards tell you about available cards?
What does the manufacturer of the expansion board tell you about it? Will it be a separate sound card from the built-in one? Or will the
expansion
merely provide the built-in one with more channels?
You might want to subscribe to the linux audio users mailing list for
assistance
as well.
P
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The PiSound looks great but would require a different housing. Mmmmhhh . . . How does Pd communicate with it? Does it show up as a sound card and MIDI device?
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Alexandros Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:53 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
I can confirm that the Pisound works great, but it's not a cheap solution.
On 23/9/21 4:34 . ., Ingo wrote:
cat /proc/asound/cards says --- no soundcards --- Pd doesn't see any soundcards.
I think the problem is that the DAC get its data from the GPIO pins that Pd cannot communicate with.
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
I have a very small Sounblaster card that works fine and sounds ok but it's still too large to fit inside. With the internal headphones out my software doesn't even start up.
I'm afraid that this won't even work at all with Pd . . . Has anyone ever used any of these RPi DACs?
Ingo
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:19 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 14:04]:
Hi everybody!
I just got a DAC expansion board for my RPi4 but Pd doesn't see it.
https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-
r-
raspb
erry-p i-4?c=2389
Since there is no room for a sound card in such a small box and the RPi headphone out is no good it looks like the only compact way.
Can anybody point me to instruction for making Pd use these DAC expansion boards as a sound card?
What do the commands $ pd -listdev $ $ cat /proc/asound/cards tell you about available cards?
What does the manufacturer of the expansion board tell you about it? Will it be a separate sound card from the built-in one? Or will the
expansion
merely provide the built-in one with more channels?
You might want to subscribe to the linux audio users mailing list for
assistance
as well.
P
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It does appear as a sound card and you can connect to it as a MIDI device via aconnect.
On 23/9/21 5:28 μ.μ., Ingo wrote:
The PiSound looks great but would require a different housing. Mmmmhhh . . . How does Pd communicate with it? Does it show up as a sound card and MIDI device?
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Alexandros Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:53 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
I can confirm that the Pisound works great, but it's not a cheap solution.
On 23/9/21 4:34 . ., Ingo wrote:
cat /proc/asound/cards says --- no soundcards --- Pd doesn't see any soundcards.
I think the problem is that the DAC get its data from the GPIO pins that Pd cannot communicate with.
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
I have a very small Sounblaster card that works fine and sounds ok but it's still too large to fit inside. With the internal headphones out my software doesn't even start up.
I'm afraid that this won't even work at all with Pd . . . Has anyone ever used any of these RPi DACs?
Ingo
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:19 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 14:04]:
Hi everybody!
I just got a DAC expansion board for my RPi4 but Pd doesn't see it.
https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-
r-
raspb
erry-p i-4?c=2389
Since there is no room for a sound card in such a small box and the RPi headphone out is no good it looks like the only compact way.
Can anybody point me to instruction for making Pd use these DAC expansion boards as a sound card?
What do the commands $ pd -listdev $ $ cat /proc/asound/cards tell you about available cards?
What does the manufacturer of the expansion board tell you about it? Will it be a separate sound card from the built-in one? Or will the
expansion
merely provide the built-in one with more channels?
You might want to subscribe to the linux audio users mailing list for
assistance
as well.
P
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hi, maybe these tutos, about configuring an I2S sound card on a Pi, can help you:
https://learn.pimoroni.com/article/raspberry-pi-phat-dac-install https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-i2s-audio-bonnet-for-raspberry-pi/raspbe...
Not sure their pre-configurated scripts will work with your hardware, but maybe they will after all.
Le jeu. 23 sept. 2021 à 17:01, Alexandros adrcki@gmail.com a écrit :
It does appear as a sound card and you can connect to it as a MIDI device via aconnect.
On 23/9/21 5:28 μ.μ., Ingo wrote:
The PiSound looks great but would require a different housing. Mmmmhhh .
. .
How does Pd communicate with it? Does it show up as a sound card and MIDI device?
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of
Alexandros
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:53 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
I can confirm that the Pisound works great, but it's not a cheap
solution.
On 23/9/21 4:34 . ., Ingo wrote:
cat /proc/asound/cards says --- no soundcards --- Pd doesn't see any soundcards.
I think the problem is that the DAC get its data from the GPIO pins that Pd cannot communicate with.
I wonder if anybody made a "virtual soundcard" that talks to the RPi GPIO and shows up as a ALSA device.
I have a very small Sounblaster card that works fine and sounds ok but it's still too large to fit inside. With the internal headphones out my software doesn't even start up.
I'm afraid that this won't even work at all with Pd . . . Has anyone ever used any of these RPi DACs?
Ingo
-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of
Peter P.
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:19 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How to use a DAC expansion board with the RPi4
- Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2021-09-23 14:04]:
Hi everybody!
I just got a DAC expansion board for my RPi4 but Pd doesn't see it.
https://www.berrybase.de/en/new/argon-nanosound-one-case-f-252-
r-
raspb
erry-p i-4?c=2389
Since there is no room for a sound card in such a small box and the RPi headphone out is no good it looks like the only compact way.
Can anybody point me to instruction for making Pd use these DAC expansion boards as a sound card?
What do the commands $ pd -listdev $ $ cat /proc/asound/cards tell you about available cards?
What does the manufacturer of the expansion board tell you about it? Will it be a separate sound card from the built-in one? Or will the
expansion
merely provide the built-in one with more channels?
You might want to subscribe to the linux audio users mailing list for
assistance
as well.
P
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