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Ingo

1 Apr 2023 1 Apr '23

3:34 p.m.

Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which is working fine.

But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.

At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

Ingo

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Peter P.

1 Apr 1 Apr

10:16 p.m.

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the deken search engine.

Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]:

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Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which is working fine.

But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.

At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

Ingo

...

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Ingo

3 Apr 3 Apr

9:59 a.m.

Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo

-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... = returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the deken search engine.

Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]:

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Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which is working fine.

But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.

At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

Ingo

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oliver

10:48 a.m.

Ingo wrote:

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Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

On a sidenote:

[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?

best

oliver

Ingo

2:14 p.m.

Thanks for letting us know, Oliver!

I didn't try that and didn't expect it because the help file does only mention gif, ppm and pgm formats. .png is much easier since I don't have to convert it and can look at it from any os without extra software.

Ingo

-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 10:49 AM To: Pd-List Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

Ingo wrote:

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Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

On a sidenote:

[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?

best

oliver

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Ingo

5 Apr 5 Apr

1:55 a.m.

OK, I probably know now why .png files are not mentioned in the [ggee/image] help file. .png images can have transparency.

I made myself a background picture that happend to have some transparency in the .png file. This messed up my patch big time ! ! !

Some stuff didn't show up anymore at all or other subpatches didn't even load after this! Other (not directly related) subpatches were unreadable at this point. My main patch that is usually made unvisible could not be made visible anymore with [pd-mainpatch.pd vis 1(. ( I'm still trying to figure this out . . . )

It took me half a day to find this out since I could not make quite a few of patches visible anymore. Without having backup patches a lot of things would have been totally lost. The -noloadbang flag (which helps in many of these cases) didn't help because the image was stored with the [ggee/image].

You really have to watch out for this!

Ingo

-----Original Message----- From: Ingo [mailto:ingo@miamiwave.com] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 2:14 PM To: 'oliver'; 'Pd-List' Subject: RE: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

Thanks for letting us know, Oliver!

Ingo

Ingo wrote:

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Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

On a sidenote:

[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?

best

oliver

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Ingo

2 a.m.

This should have been [; pd-mainpatch.pd vis 1( of course!

-----Original Message----- From: Ingo [mailto:ingo@miamiwave.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2023 1:55 AM To: 'oliver'; 'Pd-List' Subject: RE: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

OK, I probably know now why .png files are not mentioned in the [ggee/image] help file. .png images can have transparency.

I made myself a background picture that happend to have some transparency in the .png file. This messed up my patch big time ! ! !

You really have to watch out for this!

Ingo

Thanks for letting us know, Oliver!

Ingo

Ingo wrote:

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Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

On a sidenote:

[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?

best

oliver

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Alexandre Torres Porres

6 Apr 6 Apr

6:18 p.m.

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu:

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Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo

-----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... = returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the deken search engine.

Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]:

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Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which is working fine.

But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.

At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

Ingo

...

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Ingo

10 Apr 10 Apr

4:38 a.m.

Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great addition for making a good looking user interface. When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in Pd.

One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top. Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me.

Changing the size of the image would be awsome! It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the placement and size.

Ingo

From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM To: Ingo Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu: Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the deken search engine.

Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]:

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Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which is working fine.

But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.

At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

Ingo

...

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Ico Bukvic

8:52 p.m.

You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that includes all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from all of the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an ability to track clicks, including their location.

Best,

Ico

-- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39 PM Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great > addition for making a good looking user interface. > When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an > alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated > code in > Pd. > > One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background > (for > background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top. > Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) > makes > more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to > me. > > Changing the size of the image would be awsome! > It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the > picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the > placement and size. > > Ingo > > > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it > to > work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'. > > Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for > higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made > tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can > handle > jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten > me > > cheers > > Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu: > Thanks Peter! > > The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image. > > I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and > look much better. > Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need. > > I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image. > > Ingo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > > http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... > = > returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object > https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd > > Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the > deken search engine. > > * Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]: > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) > > images which is working fine. > > > > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 > > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels. > > > > > > > > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs? > > > > > > > > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on > > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. > > > > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in. > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ingo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

Ingo

13 Apr 13 Apr

10:56 a.m.

Thanks, Ico!

This sounds great!

But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian 9.5) ? Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?

Ingo

From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM To: Ingo Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

Best,

Ico

-- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts - 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great addition for making a good looking user interface. When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in Pd. One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top. Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me. Changing the size of the image would be awsome! It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the placement and size. Ingo From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM To: Ingo Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ? I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'. Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me cheers Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu: Thanks Peter! The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image. I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need. I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image. Ingo -----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ? http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... = returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the deken search engine. * Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]: > Hello, > > > > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) > images which is working fine. > > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels. > > > > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs? > > > > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. > > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in. > > > > Any help is appreciated! > > > > Thanks > > Ingo > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Ico Bukvic

2:05 p.m.

Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.

Best,

Ico

-- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Thanks, Ico! > > This sounds great! > > But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian > 9.5) ? > Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed? > > Ingo > > > > From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that > includes > all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from > all of > the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports > transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an > ability > to track clicks, including their location. > > Best, > > Ico > > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Director, Creativity + Innovation > Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology > Virginia Tech > Creative Technologies in Music > School of Performing Arts - 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > > ci.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > ico.bukvic.net > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great > addition for making a good looking user interface. > When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an > alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated > code in > Pd. > > One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background > (for > background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top. > Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes > more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to > me. > > Changing the size of the image would be awsome! > It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the > picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the > placement and size. > > Ingo > > > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to > work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'. > > Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for > higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made > tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can > handle > jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten > me > > cheers > > Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu: > Thanks Peter! > > The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image. > > I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and > look much better. > Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need. > > I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image. > > Ingo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > > http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... > = > returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object > https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd > > Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the > deken search engine. > > * Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]: > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) > > images which is working fine. > > > > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 > > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels. > > > > > > > > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs? > > > > > > > > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on > > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. > > > > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in. > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ingo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >

Ingo

14 Apr 14 Apr

11:32 a.m.

Thanks, Ico!

That's too bad . . . It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I wrote for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork.

...

From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as

vanilla, though. Too much risk of wasting a lot of time.

Ingo

From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM To: Ingo Cc: Pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core. Best,

Ico

Ico Bukvic

2:45 p.m.

No worries, Ingo. If you do have a moment, I am curious to learn what may require adapting when switching since all the vanilla objects are supported, save for those that were recently introduced and which will be ported soon. So, the older patches should run out-of-box.

Best,

Ico

-- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 05:32 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Thanks, Ico! > > That's too bad . . . > It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I > wrote > for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork. > From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as > vanilla, though. > Too much risk of wasting a lot of time. > > Ingo > > > > From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Pd-list > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core. > Best, > > Ico > > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Director, Creativity + Innovation > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology > > Virginia Tech > Creative Technologies in Music > School of Performing Arts - 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > > ci.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > ico.bukvic.net > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Thanks, Ico! > > This sounds great! > > But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian > 9.5) ? > Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed? > > Ingo > > > > From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that > includes > all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from > all of > the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports > transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an > ability > to track clicks, including their location. > > Best, > > Ico > > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Director, Creativity + Innovation > Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology > Virginia Tech > Creative Technologies in Music > School of Performing Arts - 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > > ci.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > ico.bukvic.net > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great > addition for making a good looking user interface. > When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an > alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated > code in > Pd. > > One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background > (for > background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top. > Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes > more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to > me. > > Changing the size of the image would be awsome! > It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the > picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the > placement and size. > > Ingo > > > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to > work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'. > > Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for > higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made > tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can > handle > jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten > me > > cheers > > Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu: > Thanks Peter! > > The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image. > > I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and > look much better. > Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need. > > I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image. > > Ingo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > > http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... > = > returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object > https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd > > Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the > deken search engine. > > * Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]: > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) > > images which is working fine. > > > > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 > > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels. > > > > > > > > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs? > > > > > > > > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on > > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. > > > > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in. > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ingo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > >

Ingo

3:41 p.m.

I'm running a bunch of external libraries. Pd-L2Ork has many libraries included but I would have to go through all objects on different (Linux) hardware - like Intel, AMD and ARM.

I'll check it out once I have some spare time . . .

Ingo

From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 2:45 PM To: Ingo Cc: Pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

Best,

Ico

-- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts - 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 05:32 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: Thanks, Ico! That's too bad . . . It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I wrote for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork. >From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as vanilla, though. Too much risk of wasting a lot of time. Ingo From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM To: Ingo Cc: Pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ? Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core. Best, Ico -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts - 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: Thanks, Ico! This sounds great! But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian 9.5) ? Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed? Ingo From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM To: Ingo Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ? You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that includes all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from all of the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an ability to track clicks, including their location. Best, Ico -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts - 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great addition for making a good looking user interface. When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in Pd. One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top. Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me. Changing the size of the image would be awsome! It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the placement and size. Ingo From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM To: Ingo Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ? I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'. Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me cheers Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu: Thanks Peter! The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image. I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and look much better. Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need. I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image. Ingo -----Original Message----- From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ? http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... = returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the deken search engine. * Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]: > Hello, > > > > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) > images which is working fine. > > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels. > > > > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs? > > > > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. > > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in. > > > > Any help is appreciated! > > > > Thanks > > Ingo > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Ico Bukvic

3:45 p.m.

If I understand you correctly, your concern is with these running on different hardware? If so, there are builds for x86 Windows, Intel Mac (should be compatible with newer Arm Mac's via native emulation layer), Linux x86_64, and Arm (RPi) Linux.

Best,

Ico

-- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 09:41 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > I'm running a bunch of external libraries. > Pd-L2Ork has many libraries included but I would have to go through all > objects on different (Linux) hardware - like Intel, AMD and ARM. > > I'll check it out once I have some spare time . . . > > Ingo > > > > From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 2:45 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Pd-list > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > No worries, Ingo. If you do have a moment, I am curious to learn what may > require adapting when switching since all the vanilla objects are > supported, > save for those that were recently introduced and which will be ported > soon. > So, the older patches should run out-of-box. > > Best, > > Ico > > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Director, Creativity + Innovation > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology > > Virginia Tech > Creative Technologies in Music > School of Performing Arts - 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > > ci.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > ico.bukvic.net > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 05:32 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Thanks, Ico! > > That's too bad . . . > It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I wrote > for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork. > From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as > vanilla, though. > Too much risk of wasting a lot of time. > > Ingo > > > > From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Pd-list > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core. > Best, > > Ico > > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Director, Creativity + Innovation > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology > > Virginia Tech > Creative Technologies in Music > School of Performing Arts - 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > > ci.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > ico.bukvic.net > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Thanks, Ico! > > This sounds great! > > But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian > 9.5) ? > Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed? > > Ingo > > > > From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico@vt.edu] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that > includes > all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from > all of > the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports > transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an > ability > to track clicks, including their location. > > Best, > > Ico > > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Director, Creativity + Innovation > Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology > Virginia Tech > Creative Technologies in Music > School of Performing Arts - 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > > ci.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > ico.bukvic.net > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote: > Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great > addition for making a good looking user interface. > When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an > alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated > code in > Pd. > > One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background > (for > background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top. > Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes > more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to > me. > > Changing the size of the image would be awsome! > It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the > picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the > placement and size. > > Ingo > > > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM > To: Ingo > Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to > work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'. > > Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for > higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made > tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can > handle > jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten > me > > cheers > > Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com escreveu: > Thanks Peter! > > The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image. > > I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and > look much better. > Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need. > > I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image. > > Ingo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P. > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif > (like ggee/image) ? > > > http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&desc... > = > returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object > https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd > > Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the > deken search engine. > > * Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com [2023-04-01 15:49]: > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) > > images which is working fine. > > > > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 > > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels. > > > > > > > > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs? > > > > > > > > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on > > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. > > > > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in. > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ingo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > >

Patco

1 Apr 1 Apr

10:23 p.m.

Hello,

have you tried ofelia external?

...

Le 1 avr. 2023 à 15:34, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com a écrit :

Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which is working fine. But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks Ingo _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Ingo

3 Apr 3 Apr

9:54 a.m.

Thanks, Patice!

I will take a look at ofelia.

Ingo

From: Patco [mailto:colet.patrice@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:23 PM To: Ingo Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

Hello,

have you tried ofelia external?

Le 1 avr. 2023 à 15:34, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com a écrit :

Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which is working fine. But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD. At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks Ingo _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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