I spent more time attempting to build and install jMAX then actually using it. Christian Klippel ported FFTEASE to it nicely and there was an awesome granular patch that someone built that worked on 2.5, but then it plummetted.
I use pd recently for GEM, pdp, PIDIP an gridflow. It is nice. I recently have tried Jitter and it works very well too. I have noticed that the same type of patch is a little faster on Jitter than on GEM, but i think that is because of a mem leak with pdp_ieee1394.
On Mon Nov 14 16:13:32 EST 2005, Arie van Schutterhoef arsche@xs4all.nl wrote:
Jitter is a clone of GridFlow.
-Jitter is rumored to be 'inspired' by nato 0,55 of the (in)famous NN-aglomerate.
implementing an alternative gui for jmax in python was (i think) only an attempt to make jMax fit better into an opensource project like agnula (they had license problems dueto java)
Right, and also the Java/Swing UI had too many bugs, several of which were in SUN's and IBM's implementations of Java/Swing.
-I have always been puzzled by this insistence on using java for the GUI. Seems to me also being the main reason why people disbanded jMax. and moved either to PD or to Max/MSP.
Oh, and as far as I can tell, IRCAM has destroyed the mailing-list archives of the old jMax, which conveniently removes most traces of the existence of former 3rd-party developers.
-I don't know that's the reason, but its disappearance is strange, to say the least.
AvS
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On 11/14/05, shreeswifty bigswift@ufl.edu wrote:
I use pd recently for GEM, pdp, PIDIP an gridflow. It is nice. I recently have tried Jitter and it works very well too. I have noticed that the same type of patch is a little faster on Jitter than on GEM, but i think that is because of a mem leak with pdp_ieee1394.
PDP isn't a part of GEM, and that object is exactly the same functionality as pix_video from what I recall (the code is copied line for line).
Let me know when Jitter is 895 times faster...
shreeswifty wrote:
that the same type of patch is a little faster on Jitter than on GEM, but i think that is because of a mem leak with pdp_ieee1394.
how should a memleak affect performance? (it might crash pd/pdp once it has eaten all the memory, but while it uses RAM (not swap) i don't think there should be a degrade in performance)
and if there is a memleak in [pdp_ieee1394] (or [pix_video] to come to Gem grounds) please report this as a bug, so people can go and try and fix it.
it is one of the worst things in (open source) software development, when people keep complaining about bugs but don't report them to the developers (on order to be able to complain about the bug in the next 2 years, since nobody else discovered it and/or reported it)
note: this rant is not especially directed at patrick, but at anybody.
mfg.cdas. IOhannes
shreeswifty wrote:
I spent more time attempting to build and install jMAX then actually using it. Christian Klippel ported FFTEASE to it nicely and there was an awesome granular patch that someone built that worked on 2.5, but then it plummetted.
I use pd recently for GEM, pdp, PIDIP an gridflow. It is nice. I recently have tried Jitter and it works very well too. I have noticed that the same type of patch is a little faster on Jitter than on GEM, but i think that is because of a mem leak with pdp_ieee1394.
*cough* seems to me that would be more a comparison between the quicktime architecture (and loads of proprietary code) compared to pdp, which I beleive on OSX ignores all that stuff and still uses the free(er?) dv decoder.
Funny I had heard the opposite, the same patch running on Gem faster than on jitter... ;)
b.
On Mon Nov 14 16:13:32 EST 2005, Arie van Schutterhoef arsche@xs4all.nl wrote:
Jitter is a clone of GridFlow.
-Jitter is rumored to be 'inspired' by nato 0,55 of the (in)famous NN-aglomerate.
implementing an alternative gui for jmax in python was (i think) only an attempt to make jMax fit better into an opensource project like agnula (they had license problems dueto java)
Right, and also the Java/Swing UI had too many bugs, several of which were in SUN's and IBM's implementations of Java/Swing.
-I have always been puzzled by this insistence on using java for the GUI. Seems to me also being the main reason why people disbanded jMax. and moved either to PD or to Max/MSP.
Oh, and as far as I can tell, IRCAM has destroyed the mailing-list archives of the old jMax, which conveniently removes most traces of the existence of former 3rd-party developers.
-I don't know that's the reason, but its disappearance is strange, to say the least.
AvS
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