Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
I use the latest auto build since it's the only pd-extended that can be installed on hardy and since I'd really like to try the pix_fiducialtrack.
Pd/Gem from the Ubuntu repositories works fine.
Anyone got a clue what could cause this?
best,
.kris
Le Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:31:50 +0200 (CEST), "Kristofer Hagbard" nekmok@olmrosa.se a écrit :
Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
I use the latest auto build since it's the only pd-extended that can be installed on hardy and since I'd really like to try the pix_fiducialtrack.
Pd/Gem from the Ubuntu repositories works fine.
Anyone got a clue what could cause this?
Most likely you havent enabled the proprietary driver and/or the GL options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
best,
.kris
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hi olivier if you're using ati/xorg you'd probably have to refer to this posting: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-02/059833.html greets olsen
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Le Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:31:50 +0200 (CEST), "Kristofer Hagbard" nekmok@olmrosa.se a écrit :
Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
I use the latest auto build since it's the only pd-extended that can be installed on hardy and since I'd really like to try the pix_fiducialtrack.
Pd/Gem from the Ubuntu repositories works fine.
Anyone got a clue what could cause this?
Most likely you havent enabled the proprietary driver and/or the GL options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
best,
.kris
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Hi,
I don't think this is the problem, I have installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver and hardware acceleration seems to work in other applications (the screensavers run smoothly :) And also gem 0.90 works nicely with pd vanilla 0.40.2. I have also turned off the compiz stuff.
Do you need some special settings in xorg.conf for gem 0.91 to work in hardy?
best,
.kris
olsen wolf skrev:
hi olivier if you're using ati/xorg you'd probably have to refer to this posting: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-02/059833.html greets olsen
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Olivier Heinry olivier@heinry.fr wrote:
Le Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:31:50 +0200 (CEST), "Kristofer Hagbard" nekmok@olmrosa.se a écrit :
Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
I use the latest auto build since it's the only pd-extended that can be installed on hardy and since I'd really like to try the pix_fiducialtrack.
Pd/Gem from the Ubuntu repositories works fine.
Anyone got a clue what could cause this?
Most likely you havent enabled the proprietary driver and/or the GL options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
best,
.kris
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FYI on all my machines I've seen freezes when rending with NVIDIA proprietary drivers.
To make em stable I've had to add the following kernel options:
acpi=off noapm
then its stable.
Mind you, I've never seen this happen immediately, only after running X for some time....
worth a try...
I've not jumped to hardy yet, will be a couple months when my thesis is done.
..b.
Kristofer Hagbard wrote:
Hi,
I don't think this is the problem, I have installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver and hardware acceleration seems to work in other applications (the screensavers run smoothly :) And also gem 0.90 works nicely with pd vanilla 0.40.2. I have also turned off the compiz stuff.
Do you need some special settings in xorg.conf for gem 0.91 to work in hardy?
best,
.kris
olsen wolf skrev:
hi olivier if you're using ati/xorg you'd probably have to refer to this posting: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-02/059833.html greets olsen
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Olivier Heinry olivier@heinry.fr wrote:
Le Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:31:50 +0200 (CEST), "Kristofer Hagbard" nekmok@olmrosa.se a écrit :
Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
I use the latest auto build since it's the only pd-extended that can be installed on hardy and since I'd really like to try the pix_fiducialtrack.
Pd/Gem from the Ubuntu repositories works fine.
Anyone got a clue what could cause this?
Most likely you havent enabled the proprietary driver and/or the GL options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
best,
.kris
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Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound, but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object(s) yet for pure D.
cheers~
Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida
I don't think most of us are SuperCollider users, so I think you'll
have better luck if you describe what BBCut does.
.hc
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, bigswift@cox.net wrote:
Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something
similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it
quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound,
but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object (s) yet for pure D.cheers~
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kill your television
BBcut library is a collection of tools to cut sounds into slices and rearrange them with some random and repeat rules. I don't know any pd port.
n
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I don't think most of us are SuperCollider users, so I think you'll
have better luck if you describe what BBCut does..hc
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, bigswift@cox.net wrote:
Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something
similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it
quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound,
but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object (s) yet for pure D.cheers~
Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida
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yes, it's kind of like breakbeat a little hence perhaps "BB" sounds kind of glitchy and modern
pretty sure it's open source code, i'll have to check though there is an opcode and an .sc class,
c'mon guys we NEED a bbcut.pd_linux!!
:-)
---- Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr wrote:
BBcut library is a collection of tools to cut sounds into slices and rearrange them with some random and repeat rules. I don't know any pd port.
n
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I don't think most of us are SuperCollider users, so I think you'll
have better luck if you describe what BBCut does..hc
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, bigswift@cox.net wrote:
Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something
similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it
quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound,
but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object (s) yet for pure D.cheers~
Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida
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as you might know, theres a vst/au port called livecut: http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/07/livecut.php
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr wrote:
BBcut library is a collection of tools to cut sounds into slices and rearrange them with some random and repeat rules. I don't know any pd port.
n
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I don't think most of us are SuperCollider users, so I think you'll have better luck if you describe what BBCut does.
.hc
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, bigswift@cox.net wrote:
Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound, but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object (s) yet for pure D.
cheers~
Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida
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no i did not know! Very nice port of BBCUT.
has anyone tried it inside pd with VST?
pp
---- "Martin ." blindmanonacid@gmail.com wrote:
as you might know, theres a vst/au port called livecut: http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/07/livecut.php
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr wrote:
BBcut library is a collection of tools to cut sounds into slices and rearrange them with some random and repeat rules. I don't know any pd port.
n
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I don't think most of us are SuperCollider users, so I think you'll have better luck if you describe what BBCut does.
.hc
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, bigswift@cox.net wrote:
Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound, but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object (s) yet for pure D.
cheers~
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no i did not know! Very nice port of BBCUT.
has anyone tried it inside pd with VST?
pp
---- "Martin ." blindmanonacid@gmail.com wrote:
as you might know, theres a vst/au port called livecut: http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/07/livecut.php
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr wrote:
BBcut library is a collection of tools to cut sounds into slices and rearrange them with some random and repeat rules. I don't know any pd port.
n
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I don't think most of us are SuperCollider users, so I think you'll have better luck if you describe what BBCut does.
.hc
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, bigswift@cox.net wrote:
Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound, but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object (s) yet for pure D.
cheers~
Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida
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... i remember seeing a patch once that did something similar if im not mistaken. OR maybe it was an object... "studder~"? maybe something in max?
anyway... this IS really cool. i had lots of fun with it in ableton live last night!
thanks for the pointer! mark
--- bigswift@cox.net wrote:
no i did not know! Very nice port of BBCUT.
has anyone tried it inside pd with VST?
pp
---- "Martin ." blindmanonacid@gmail.com wrote:
as you might know, theres a vst/au port called
livecut:
http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/07/livecut.php
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Nicolas
Montgermont
nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr wrote:
BBcut library is a collection of tools to cut
sounds into slices and
rearrange them with some random and repeat
rules.
I don't know any pd port.
n
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I don't think most of us are SuperCollider
users, so I think you'll
have better luck if you describe what BBCut
does.
.hc
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, bigswift@cox.net
wrote:
Hi List!
Hope everyone is well, I am interested in
incorporating something
similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd
audio suite and use it
quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a
opcode in Csound,
but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack
at a BBCut object
(s) yet for pure D.
cheers~
Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida
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Thanks for the tip! ...but unfortunately it did not change anything tried both 'acpi=noacpi' and 'apm=noapm' but the system still freeze.
And this only happens with gem 0.91. (Gem 0.90 and pdp works fine!)
Anyone have a working 0.91 on hardy?
.kris
2008/4/28 B. Bogart ben@ekran.org:
FYI on all my machines I've seen freezes when rending with NVIDIA proprietary drivers.
To make em stable I've had to add the following kernel options:
acpi=off noapm
then its stable.
Mind you, I've never seen this happen immediately, only after running X for some time....
worth a try...
I've not jumped to hardy yet, will be a couple months when my thesis is done.
..b.
Kristofer Hagbard wrote:
Hi,
I don't think this is the problem, I have installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver and hardware acceleration seems to work in other
applications
(the screensavers run smoothly :) And also gem 0.90 works nicely with pd vanilla 0.40.2. I have also turned off the compiz stuff.
Do you need some special settings in xorg.conf for gem 0.91 to work in hardy?
best,
.kris
olsen wolf skrev:
hi olivier if you're using ati/xorg you'd probably have to refer to this posting: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-02/059833.html greets olsen
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Olivier Heinry olivier@heinry.fr
wrote:
Le Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:31:50 +0200 (CEST), "Kristofer Hagbard" nekmok@olmrosa.se a écrit :
Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
I use the latest auto build since it's the only pd-extended that can be installed on hardy and since I'd really like to try the pix_fiducialtrack.
Pd/Gem from the Ubuntu repositories works fine.
Anyone got a clue what could cause this?
Most likely you havent enabled the proprietary driver and/or the GL options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
best,
.kris
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Quoting "B. Bogart" ben@ekran.org:
FYI on all my machines I've seen freezes when rending with NVIDIA proprietary drivers.
interesting. i almost exclusively use nvidia hardware and cannot
remember having (consistently appearing) freezes on this hardware.
i am using stock debian though; do you think your problem might be
ubuntu related?
I've not jumped to hardy yet, will be a couple months when my thesis is done.
my girlfriends machine is currently being updated to hardy.
i will try whether Gem works once it is done (though it is an ATI with
proprietary drivers)
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Hi list !
Does anyone as already used matlab to make externals ?
Cheers, Damien.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:56:37PM +0200, Damien Henry - Voxler wrote:
Hi list !
Does anyone as already used matlab to make externals ?
i find it quite odd .. the idea of using matlab which is t00 sl0w! but if really wish to check out - might look at the octave exteral ;] i think i live in the SVN.
Cheers, Damien.
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Hello !
About matlab and pd the following was sent in this list before in another thread. It was helpfull for me, so I post it again there.
Cheers, Damien.
This is obviously of interest to Pders
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:23:42 +0100 From: Joerg Bitzer j.w.bitzer@web.de To: music-dsp@music.columbia.edu Subject: [music-dsp] Matlab Tools and other useful stuff
Hi all,
listening to this list for quite a while, I thought and hope you will find this interesting and useful. All the tools have been developed to support and educate our students.
Please look at
http://www.hoertechnik-audiologie.de/software/
You will find:
MatPlug: A VST Plug-In to access Matlab and develop prototypes in Matlab Some examples are included
msound: msound is an interface between Matlab and your soundcard. It is based on PortAudio. Source code is provided. A new version with ASIO support is coming soon.
mmidi: MMidi is a portmidi based implementation of a midi interface between Matlab and any hardware midi device. Source code is available soon.
psylab: psylab is a tool for designing and controlling interactive psychoacoustical listening experiments in a uniform and quick manner
A reverberation analysis toolbox
Other tools you may find interesting are:
A VST Spectrogram
A VST SpatialAnalyzer
PureMeasurement: PureMeasurement (GNU GPL) is a collection of patches for Pure Data (www.puredata.org), which let you perform acoustical measurements
Lambda (GNU GPL) is a 2D acoustic wave simulator based on the Transmission Line Matrix
Have fun with it:
For further information and feedback send an email to
IHASoftwareATfh-oow.de (Change AT to the normal @-sign for sending)
Best regards
Joerg
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Georg Holzmann a écrit :
Hallo!
i find it quite odd .. the idea of using matlab which is t00 sl0w!
Well, if you need calculations with bigger matrices then matlab (or octave, numpy/scipy, ...) will be much faster !
LG Georg
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Well,
I think the idea Damien proposed is to use Matlab as a design platform, which is much more friendly than other languages, and have a kind of compiler to build the PD objects directly. People sometimes suggest GridFlow but I confess that I tried to manage the install several times without success...
I would be a dream for me also...
Best
Luiz
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:17 AM, errordeveloper@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:56:37PM +0200, Damien Henry - Voxler wrote:
Hi list !
Does anyone as already used matlab to make externals ?
i find it quite odd .. the idea of using matlab which is t00 sl0w! but if really wish to check out - might look at the octave exteral ;] i think i live in the SVN.
Cheers, Damien.
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Kristofer Hagbard wrote:
Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
i can confirm that (now that my friends machine is updated to hardy). i haveN't found out yet, what's the cause of the problem (and sourceforge's DNS currently sucks)
please file a bug-report at http://sf.net/projects/pd-gem
mdf IOhannes
hello,
i'm on a fresh hardy install. with nvidia driver (the new driver, and not the old gutsy driver that you certainly still using after an upgrade) last miller pd compilled from source. curent cvs gem version compiled from source.
everything work perfectly.
cyrille
IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
Kristofer Hagbard wrote:
Hi,
When I try to open any Gem window on Hardy 8.04 (or rather when i start rendering) it completely locks up my whole system.
i can confirm that (now that my friends machine is updated to hardy). i haveN't found out yet, what's the cause of the problem (and sourceforge's DNS currently sucks)
please file a bug-report at http://sf.net/projects/pd-gem
mdf IOhannes
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cyrille henry wrote:
hello,
i'm on a fresh hardy install. with nvidia driver (the new driver, and not the old gutsy driver that you certainly still using after an upgrade) last miller pd compilled from source.
at least someone who has good news :-)
however, the laptop _i_ am working on has ATI-drivers; i don't know how to update these restricted drivers on ubuntu.
the problem seems to be related to the dual-context handling in Gem.
gmsadr IOhannes
IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
cyrille henry wrote:
hello,
i'm on a fresh hardy install. with nvidia driver (the new driver, and not the old gutsy driver that you certainly still using after an upgrade) last miller pd compilled from source.
at least someone who has good news :-)
however, the laptop _i_ am working on has ATI-drivers; i don't know how to update these restricted drivers on ubuntu.
the problem seems to be related to the dual-context handling in Gem.
hum. what is this dual-context? tell me if there is anything i can make to help finding this bug.
cyrille
gmsadr IOhannes
tried the hardy version from hans-christoph: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-04-29/Pd-0.40.3-extended-2008... and Gem seems to work even better than on gutsy (with a 945gm intel graphic card) - (previously pd crashed each time the gem window was destroyed...)
greetings, vincent
cyrille henry a écrit :
IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
cyrille henry wrote:
hello,
i'm on a fresh hardy install. with nvidia driver (the new driver, and not the old gutsy driver that you certainly still using after an upgrade) last miller pd compilled from source.
at least someone who has good news :-)
however, the laptop _i_ am working on has ATI-drivers; i don't know how to update these restricted drivers on ubuntu.
the problem seems to be related to the dual-context handling in Gem.
hum. what is this dual-context? tell me if there is anything i can make to help finding this bug.
cyrille
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