yo i don't expect there will be an [acid~] object lyin around somewhere, but has anyone attempted to build a tb-303 clone in pd?¿ danke r
I actually just ran into Frank Barknecht's yesterday:
http://footils.org/cms/show/19
pd-303.
-Ian
roc wrote:
yo i don't expect there will be an [acid~] object lyin around somewhere, but has anyone attempted to build a tb-303 clone in pd?¿ danke r
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Well, pianoroll works under OSX, I think maxlib does too. Then you just need to replace the LADSPA plugins, or perhaps not, I wouldn't be surprised if fink had some LADSPA OSX thingie. Even if not, all it uses from LADSPA is an oscillator and the vcf303, which I'm not sure how you could replace. Bottom line is you could probably get it working to some degree with a bit of work.
-Ian
roc wrote:
wicked, but i guess i'm on a dead end as i'm on OSX, right? r
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Have to admit that those Blop oscillators sound pretty damned good. One problem with PD is that there's no simple [+ anti-aliased] way to make a square, triangle or PWM oscillator. I can't recall which waveforms get used in Frank's thingee [triangle and square are pretty acieeeeed-sounding, tho...], but they won't sound nearly so phat if you "home-brew" it w/o the Blop oscillators. Vcf303 could probably be replicated with the vcf~ object in main PD, but again it might not be so fine tuned. Also might take a different range of control numbers. Try it out and see. Somebody else might have made some cross-platfrom, anti-aliased multi-wavefrom osciallators. Might be good if they chimed in right about now if they have ;-)
d.
Ian Smith-Heisters wrote:
Well, pianoroll works under OSX, I think maxlib does too. Then you just need to replace the LADSPA plugins, or perhaps not, I wouldn't be surprised if fink had some LADSPA OSX thingie. Even if not, all it uses from LADSPA is an oscillator and the vcf303, which I'm not sure how you could replace. Bottom line is you could probably get it working to some degree with a bit of work.
derek holzer wrote: I can't recall which waveforms get
used in Frank's thingee
It defaults to square.
While we're on the topic, I was wondering if someone could take a swing at a simple frontend to this very same LADSPA plugin (analogueOsc) that I just built. While Frank's abstraction works fine, my rather simple GOP patch only produces a quiet fuzz, and I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've tried to build two other similar LADSPA frontends and they also don't work for mysterious reasons. At first I thought plugin~ was buggy with .38-2, but like I said, Frank's works fine.
Thanks, Ian
Ian Smith-Heisters wrote:
Well, pianoroll works under OSX, I think maxlib does too. Then you just need to replace the LADSPA plugins, or perhaps not, I wouldn't be surprised if fink had some LADSPA OSX thingie. Even if not, all it uses from LADSPA is an oscillator and the vcf303, which I'm not sure how you could replace. Bottom line is you could probably get it working to some degree with a bit of work.
Perhaps you mean this?:
ww.geuggis.com/tb-303/art06.htm
d.
Eric Skogen wrote:
have you seen robin whittle's notes about the 303?
Hallo, Eric Skogen hat gesagt: // Eric Skogen wrote:
try blosc~ and resofilter~ from creb - which is my favorite library for pd.
I second this and I am now using blosc~ for many thing aceedish myself instead of the LADSPA versions. Creb should build on all OSes supported by Pd. For filters I can also recommend the IEMLib filters, then there are several moogvcf~ things on the net, too. I don't use "pianoroll" anymore myself but instead use my rradical sequencers a lot, for example my rrad.pattseq.pd is very "analog style" and it's more flexible in regard to saving patterns plus it works in Graph on Parent mode.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
_ __latest track: fqdn _ http://footils.org/cms/show/38
can somebody suggest some vst-replacements for the ladspa plugins to get frank's 303 patch working und windoze ?
I'm so curious about this patch ;-)
ciao
oliver
derek holzer wrote:
Have to admit that those Blop oscillators sound pretty damned good. One problem with PD is that there's no simple [+ anti-aliased] way to make a square, triangle or PWM oscillator. I can't recall which waveforms get used in Frank's thingee [triangle and square are pretty acieeeeed-sounding, tho...], but they won't sound nearly so phat if you "home-brew" it w/o the Blop oscillators. Vcf303 could probably be replicated with the vcf~ object in main PD, but again it might not be so fine tuned. Also might take a different range of control numbers. Try it out and see. Somebody else might have made some cross-platfrom, anti-aliased multi-wavefrom osciallators. Might be good if they chimed in right about now if they have ;-)
d.
Ian Smith-Heisters wrote:
Well, pianoroll works under OSX, I think maxlib does too. Then you just need to replace the LADSPA plugins, or perhaps not, I wouldn't be surprised if fink had some LADSPA OSX thingie. Even if not, all it uses from LADSPA is an oscillator and the vcf303, which I'm not sure how you could replace. Bottom line is you could probably get it working to some degree with a bit of work.
Well, pianoroll works under OSX, I think maxlib does too. Then you just need to replace the LADSPA plugins, or perhaps not, I wouldn't be surprised if fink had some LADSPA OSX thingie. Even if not, all it uses from LADSPA is an oscillator and the vcf303, which I'm not sure how you could replace. Bottom line is you could probably get it working to some degree with a bit of work.
yes, i use pianoroll and maxlib, but the pd303 abst. wont even open in pd. it just crashes everything. r
It did this to me on Linux before I got the plugin~ working correctly. Which I think is a Bad Thing. But anyway. Since you're not going to get the plugin working correctly, I would recommend editing the patch in your favorite text editor and removing the lines for plugin~. BUT, try not removing the whole line, so that (if you're using pd => 0.38) it will keep the wiring in place so it's easier for you to replace the plugin~ with the thingie of your choice. Maybe just remove the 'u' from 'plugin~' or something. (I have no idea if that will work).
(is it just me or is PD .38 way buggy, as with this thing of it crashing?)
Cheers, I
roc wrote:
Well, pianoroll works under OSX, I think maxlib does too. Then you just need to replace the LADSPA plugins, or perhaps not, I wouldn't be surprised if fink had some LADSPA OSX thingie. Even if not, all it uses from LADSPA is an oscillator and the vcf303, which I'm not sure how you could replace. Bottom line is you could probably get it working to some degree with a bit of work.
yes, i use pianoroll and maxlib, but the pd303 abst. wont even open in pd. it just crashes everything. r
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Hello liststers,
I want to show a patch I made using pd with pdp tomorrow on a location where it can only be run on a macintosh computer without administrator rights. Is it possible to setup pd and pdp this way easily? and will it be compatible with my linux-built patch or should I give up on this and drag my pc with me? I hope some of you have some tips here... I wouldn't like to drag that pc on the back of my bike 10 km.
Hi, i am new to pd and to the list. Sorry to ask such
a basic question, but I have tried and it seems I am
not able to figure it out on my own.
I have downloaded pd 0.38-2 from Miller Puckette's
site and GemG5 from taproot.dyndns.org. I unstuffed
and got a pd0.38-2 file and a Gem.pd_darwin file. I
placed both files in a directory that I created at
applications, named Pd.
After that I created a .pdrc file in textedit. I put
in there:
-lib /Applications/Pd/Gem
I saved it and put it in the home directory (which is
called julieta).
But pd doesn' t seem to recognize Gem still. I was
wondering what I could be doing wrong... I also tried
to put the same -lib /applications/Pd/Gem path in the
path files on Pd. I don't really know much about
anything, but I was doing the installation this way
after the instructions of a friend.
If someone could help me out, that'd be awesome.
Julieta
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Try this:
-Get Info on the Pd application
- Select 'Show Package Contents which will open another window in the
Finder
- Navigate to Contents->Resources->extra
- drag Gem.pd_darwin into the Extra directory
- use -lib Gem in your .pdrc
Please post the console messages if Gem doesn't load using this method.
cgc
On Feb 13, 2005, at 11:31 AM, julieta Maria wrote:
Hi, i am new to pd and to the list. Sorry to ask such a basic question, but I have tried and it seems I am not able to figure it out on my own. I have downloaded pd 0.38-2 from Miller Puckette's site and GemG5 from taproot.dyndns.org. I unstuffed and got a pd0.38-2 file and a Gem.pd_darwin file. I placed both files in a directory that I created at applications, named Pd. After that I created a .pdrc file in textedit. I put in there: -lib /Applications/Pd/Gem I saved it and put it in the home directory (which is called julieta). But pd doesn' t seem to recognize Gem still. I was wondering what I could be doing wrong... I also tried to put the same -lib /applications/Pd/Gem path in the path files on Pd. I don't really know much about anything, but I was doing the installation this way after the instructions of a friend. If someone could help me out, that'd be awesome.
Julieta
Hi! I tried what you both suggested, but it just
behaves the same way.
Although I didn't know what roc meant by -path
/users/julieta/whatever/folder, since I don't know
what folder to address...(sorry if i don't get it).
Everything but the .pdrc (which is in
users/julieta(this is my home)) is in applications/Pd
, which I also tried...
I think Pd is working, but I wouldn't be really sure.
I mean, I open a test patch, and some things work
fine, like the metro and random and those kind of
objects, whereas it doesn't seem to recognize the
object counter (which I thought was odd), and it
doesn't recognize any of the Gem objects. I just get
one Pd window when it opens, and then the other window
when I open the test pdfile. When pd opens I don't get
any messages in the console. When I open the file, I
get:
counter 0 10 1 ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create square 2 ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create cube 1.5 ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create pix_image ... couldn't create pix_texture ... couldn't create sphere 2 ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create pix_texture ... couldn't create sphere 2 ... couldn't create pix_film ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: .printout.text: no such object error: .printout.text: no such object error: .printout.text: no such object
--- chris clepper cgc@humboldtblvd.com wrote:
Try this:
-Get Info on the Pd application
- Select 'Show Package Contents which will open
another window in the Finder
- Navigate to Contents->Resources->extra
- drag Gem.pd_darwin into the Extra directory
- use -lib Gem in your .pdrc
Please post the console messages if Gem doesn't load using this method.
cgc
On Feb 13, 2005, at 11:31 AM, julieta Maria wrote:
Hi, i am new to pd and to the list. Sorry to ask
such
a basic question, but I have tried and it seems I
am
not able to figure it out on my own. I have downloaded pd 0.38-2 from Miller Puckette's site and GemG5 from taproot.dyndns.org. I
unstuffed
and got a pd0.38-2 file and a Gem.pd_darwin file.
I
placed both files in a directory that I created at applications, named Pd. After that I created a .pdrc file in textedit. I
put
in there: -lib /Applications/Pd/Gem I saved it and put it in the home directory
(which is
called julieta). But pd doesn' t seem to recognize Gem still. I was wondering what I could be doing wrong... I also
tried
to put the same -lib /applications/Pd/Gem path in
the
path files on Pd. I don't really know much about anything, but I was doing the installation this
way
after the instructions of a friend. If someone could help me out, that'd be awesome.
Julieta
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Download the following : http://data-art.uqam.ca/pd.data-art.osx.sit
It includes the newest version of PD and Gem (and more).
Here is the proper .pdrc http://data-art.uqam.ca/pdrc.sit Extract its contents in your home folder (the folder with the same name as your user, "julieta" for example).
Check apple for more info on your home folder http://www.apple.com/pro/training/moving_to_macosx/segment102569b.html http://www.apple.com/macosx/learning/
Tom
----- Original Message ----- From: "julieta Maria" barrambabella@yahoo.com To: "pd-list" PD-list@iem.at Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [PD] installing PD and Gem in osx -still not working
Hi! I tried what you both suggested, but it just behaves the same way. Although I didn't know what roc meant by -path /users/julieta/whatever/folder, since I don't know what folder to address...(sorry if i don't get it). Everything but the .pdrc (which is in users/julieta(this is my home)) is in applications/Pd , which I also tried... I think Pd is working, but I wouldn't be really sure. I mean, I open a test patch, and some things work fine, like the metro and random and those kind of objects, whereas it doesn't seem to recognize the object counter (which I thought was odd), and it doesn't recognize any of the Gem objects. I just get one Pd window when it opens, and then the other window when I open the test pdfile. When pd opens I don't get any messages in the console. When I open the file, I get:
counter 0 10 1 ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create square 2 ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create cube 1.5 ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create pix_image ... couldn't create pix_texture ... couldn't create sphere 2 ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create pix_texture ... couldn't create sphere 2 ... couldn't create pix_film ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: .printout.text: no such object error: .printout.text: no such object error: .printout.text: no such object
--- chris clepper cgc@humboldtblvd.com wrote:
Try this:
-Get Info on the Pd application
- Select 'Show Package Contents which will open
another window in the Finder
- Navigate to Contents->Resources->extra
- drag Gem.pd_darwin into the Extra directory
- use -lib Gem in your .pdrc
Please post the console messages if Gem doesn't load using this method.
cgc
On Feb 13, 2005, at 11:31 AM, julieta Maria wrote:
Hi, i am new to pd and to the list. Sorry to ask
such
a basic question, but I have tried and it seems I
am
not able to figure it out on my own. I have downloaded pd 0.38-2 from Miller Puckette's site and GemG5 from taproot.dyndns.org. I
unstuffed
and got a pd0.38-2 file and a Gem.pd_darwin file.
I
placed both files in a directory that I created at applications, named Pd. After that I created a .pdrc file in textedit. I
put
in there: -lib /Applications/Pd/Gem I saved it and put it in the home directory
(which is
called julieta). But pd doesn' t seem to recognize Gem still. I was wondering what I could be doing wrong... I also
tried
to put the same -lib /applications/Pd/Gem path in
the
path files on Pd. I don't really know much about anything, but I was doing the installation this
way
after the instructions of a friend. If someone could help me out, that'd be awesome.
Julieta
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Thanks ! I downloaded the pd file and the .pdrc from the site you suggested and everything seems to be working now.
--- Thomas Ouellet Fredericks iamonthebeach@hotmail.com wrote:
Download the following : http://data-art.uqam.ca/pd.data-art.osx.sit
It includes the newest version of PD and Gem (and more).
Here is the proper .pdrc http://data-art.uqam.ca/pdrc.sit Extract its contents in your home folder (the folder with the same name as your user, "julieta" for example).
Check apple for more info on your home folder
http://www.apple.com/pro/training/moving_to_macosx/segment102569b.html
http://www.apple.com/macosx/learning/
Tom
----- Original Message ----- From: "julieta Maria" barrambabella@yahoo.com To: "pd-list" PD-list@iem.at Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [PD] installing PD and Gem in osx -still not working
Hi! I tried what you both suggested, but it just behaves the same way. Although I didn't know what roc meant by -path /users/julieta/whatever/folder, since I don't know what folder to address...(sorry if i don't get
it).
Everything but the .pdrc (which is in users/julieta(this is my home)) is in
applications/Pd
, which I also tried... I think Pd is working, but I wouldn't be really
sure.
I mean, I open a test patch, and some things work fine, like the metro and random and those kind of objects, whereas it doesn't seem to recognize the object counter (which I thought was odd), and it doesn't recognize any of the Gem objects. I just
get
one Pd window when it opens, and then the other
window
when I open the test pdfile. When pd opens I don't
get
any messages in the console. When I open the file,
I
get:
counter 0 10 1 ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create square 2 ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create cube 1.5 ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create pix_image ... couldn't create pix_texture ... couldn't create sphere 2 ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create colorRGB 0 0 1 1 ... couldn't create alpha ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create rotateXYZ ... couldn't create scaleXYZ ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create pix_texture ... couldn't create sphere 2 ... couldn't create pix_film ... couldn't create gemwin ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' ... you might be able to track this down from the
Find
menu. error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: .printout.text: no such object error: .printout.text: no such object error: .printout.text: no such object
--- chris clepper cgc@humboldtblvd.com wrote:
Try this:
-Get Info on the Pd application
- Select 'Show Package Contents which will open
another window in the Finder
- Navigate to Contents->Resources->extra
- drag Gem.pd_darwin into the Extra directory
- use -lib Gem in your .pdrc
Please post the console messages if Gem doesn't
load
using this method.
cgc
On Feb 13, 2005, at 11:31 AM, julieta Maria
wrote:
Hi, i am new to pd and to the list. Sorry to
ask
such
a basic question, but I have tried and it seems
I
am
not able to figure it out on my own. I have downloaded pd 0.38-2 from Miller
Puckette's
site and GemG5 from taproot.dyndns.org. I
unstuffed
and got a pd0.38-2 file and a Gem.pd_darwin
file.
I
placed both files in a directory that I created
at
applications, named Pd. After that I created a .pdrc file in textedit.
I
put
in there: -lib /Applications/Pd/Gem I saved it and put it in the home directory
(which is
called julieta). But pd doesn' t seem to recognize Gem still. I
was
wondering what I could be doing wrong... I
also
tried
to put the same -lib /applications/Pd/Gem path
in
the
path files on Pd. I don't really know much
about
anything, but I was doing the installation this
way
after the instructions of a friend. If someone could help me out, that'd be
awesome.
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Hi,
two things to consider:
- Create a CDR with your patches, the PD/PDP binaries, and also all the
dependencies. Then pray that they have OSX 10.3 running ;-)
- Create a bootable Linux-PPC CD with PD+PDP installed. Keywords for
Google: "Knoppix PPC", "remaster Knoppix".
Good luck! d.
MvH wrote:
I want to show a patch I made using pd with pdp tomorrow on a location where it can only be run on a macintosh computer without administrator rights. Is it possible to setup pd and pdp this way easily? and will it be compatible with my linux-built patch or should I give up on this and drag my pc with me?
-
chris clepper -
derek holzer -
Eric Skogen -
Frank Barknecht -
Ian Smith-Heisters -
julieta Maria -
MvH -
oliver -
roc -
Thomas Ouellet Fredericks