So [maxmode] basically loads useless empty "dummy" objects for more compability.
Well, my two cents is that the idea of having a library with several objects that exist in Max and not in Pd is great and awesome. It serves well in making both worlds somewhat compatible. But regarding opening the same files/patches, MAX and PD are just growing out to be very incompatible projects, so it's rather healthy to forget about forcing any compatibility of this type - it's just insane. It may have been reasonable back in MAX 4.6, but nowadays, with MAX 7 and everything, seems pointless.
More than that, to answer your question, it's pretty obvious to me that no human being is using this...
Now, please tell about these *bin-ops **"nettles"*, what are these?
cheers
2015-06-05 18:15 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan fjkraan@xs4all.nl:
Hi Alexandre,
No code will be removed, just the maxmode object and related library objects will not be build anymore.
So it'll remove many objects from the library, right?
What will be removed is the actual maxmode object, the bin-ops "nettles", ~150 dummy objects and the hammer and sickle libraries. The hammer and sickle libraries contain the objects which are also available as separate objects.
I'm having a hard time understanding this [maxmode] thing/object, can you give us an example on how to use it?
As I understand it, the purpose of the [maxmode] object is to make importing and converting Max/MSP 4.6 patches more convenient. The dummy objects do not do anything, but the patch will load without errors. The idea is to replace the dummies with abstractions or other objects. The dummies were the objects in Max/MSP4.6 but not in Pd-vanilla or cyclone.
It might have made sense when Max/MSP 4.6 were common, but that is a long time ago.
The original cyclone page is gone from the site, but I made a copy just in time:
http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/cyclone_site/cyclone.h... .
cheers
Greetings,
Fred Jan
2015-05-01 17:48 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan@xs4all.nl mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl>:
Hi All, Is anyone using the 'maxmode' object and functionality of the Cyclone library? The maxmode adds 162 dummy objects, which make importing of Max/MSP patches more convenient. Note these are Max/MSP 4.6 patches, already supported in Pd-vanilla, not the more recent file formats. In addition several binop signal objects are loaded, the message and signal objects are loaded from library objects. Normal cyclone usage are individual objects. Because we are planning to switch to a new build system, usable forall
Puredata external libraries, it would be an opportunity to simplifythe
building process and remove potential unused functionality. No code will be removed, just the maxmode object and related library objects will not be build anymore. Fred Jan P.S. The original cyclone page went off-line sometime this year, but here is a copy:http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/cyclone_site/cyclone.h...
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