With more recent version of Tcl/Tk, they have been big improvements on
GUI drawing performance. I was just testing Pd-devel on Tcl/Tk 8.4.7
( which I think pd-vanilla is still using) and Tcl/Tk 8.4.19 on Mac OS
X. I opened a big patch, hit Select All, then moved the whole patch
around. THere was a huge difference in speed. Plus I hear that Tcl/
Tk 8.5 is even faster. So I think that with a bit more work, we can
ride on top of the recent Tcl/Tk work and make the GUI decently fast.
.hc
On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:32 AM, João Pais wrote:
I've used only Max in XP in the first versions, and at that time, pd
was much more reliable - you just had to make a metro->bang to have
instant rubato in max. But that was 4 years ago, I don't know how it is now.
for sure is better. max also crahed more often than pd at that time. but
that was the first edition of max for windows.I myself have no problems with midi on xp (general audio +
Multiface), and never understood why that message is there. maybe that depends on your hardware?Pd's GUI is very unefficient, but you'll only be affected if you use
it extensively, or in the "wrong" way. that usually doesn't happen much
- but
it can happen. better to give concrete examples.
There's been a lot of talk here of late about PD not being terribly
well optimised in lots of ways - GUI drawing, and potentially other
areas. I'd always assumed (naively) that being less impressive to look at, PD
was probably quicker (in equivalent circumstances) than MAX.As such, (and not having much cash for high powered PCs or software) when I came to pick between MAX and PD, I picked PD. Was I wrong in assuming that PD runs more efficiently than MAX (specifically on XP)? I'm not sure I can afford MAX anyway, so the question is
pretty much academic, but I'm interested to know peoples' thoughts on the matter. Especially as I've recently come up against PD's issues with Midi
inputs on XP (screws my shutdown every time I try to use midi inputs). Ta Dan-- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp
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