2017-07-29 18:42 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli <reduzent@gmail.com>:

why is unhiding necessary in the first place?

So you can easily browse it, navigate there, manage it. Like you wanna throw away an external library you found to hate or doesn't work, etc... I can only see reasons to easily access your external folders, and none to the opposite.

I don't see why you need to change permissions or view settings.

I think not for %appdata%, but "extra" folder in windows needs to change permissions. But then, I don't think extra is a good place for externals for beginners. Say you throw Pd away and get the new version... now you lost all your externals! Bad, huh?

Out of the Standard Paths, I suggest the default location is the "User Specific Path". Deken does not take care of that yet, but there's been discussions in how to improve it (which likely won't make to 0.48 around the corner).

Your experiences might stem from Pd 0.47.1 where Deken did _not_ create
any directory automatically.

This may be ambiguous, let's just be clear that this only happens now (with Pd 0.48-test6) in a very specific case. Anyway, check out IOhannes' plans for deken in the end of the discussion here - revolutionary and amazing/exciting stuff.

I'm a proponent of automatic search path directory creation

Me too!

What we have with Deken is not quite there yet. But a middle ground is being set to get there, and create such folders at requests. I guess I'm fine with that... But... again, I suspect much os the resistance to this may come from not really grasping the whole concept and usage of "Standard Paths". And I still cannot understand arguments I've heard against it.

I know at one point the issue was not that it was annoying that the folder would be created, but that the desired folder should be another one. Anyway, you were a part of that discussion, I'll link it here for others to check it out.

cheers