&gt; what would be the opposite of fundamentalist?<br><br>In a tricky way you could be a fundamentalist on the opposite side I suppose...<br><br>or maybe someone who doesnt mind too much on taking one "side", or sticking to one "belief". I think things tend to be more complex than "black or white"... but I dont see why the discussin needs to reach this anyway...<br><br>&gt; the prize for a MacBook was 10612 brazilian real <br>&gt; (about 5400$) to 2499$ + 200 tax in the US.<br><br>Hmm, I doubt, I'd say the ratio is closer to 3 to 1 (6.000 $ to 2.000$) but it must be considered that we get paid in "real", in a similar fashion (same number figures) than what someone is paid in US$, so 10.000 reais is not simply 5.000 US$... the convertion doesnt work like that and it means it is much more... pople also get paid really badly here... (hello... poor country). So if you consider paying 10.000 US$ on a macbook, it seems about right.<br><br>I just paid 2.200 US$ on the top line mac
 in the US, which is the amount of money I would pay in a reasonably good PC in Brasil, or even cheaper... considering that it is a great machine... so it was a nice deal... <br><br>&gt; the majority of rich people believes: making the rich <br>&gt; richer is good for everybody (at least that is how they <br>&gt; vote all the time). the rest believes: helping as many <br>&gt; people as possible to live a worthy life is good for <br>&gt; everybody.<br><br>I do believe there is no simple answer, and even if a system states that it is based in some sort of ideal as democracy or freedom... it doesnt really mean it works that way in practice... I know I dont have the answers....<br><br><b><i>marius schebella &lt;marius.schebella@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> glerm soares wrote:<br>&gt; Hi folks.<br>&gt; I didn't mean to be the annoying guy, "fundamentalist" or
 whatever.<br><br>what would be the opposite of fundamentalist?<br><br>why brazil? and how? why open source?<br><br>I just looked up the prize for a MacBook Pro 2.4Ghz 15inch in sao paulo <br>and it was 10612 brazilian real (about 5400$) the same macbook has a <br>regular prize of 2499$ + 200 tax in the US.<br><br>the majority of rich people believes: making the rich richer is good for <br>everybody (at least that is how they vote all the time).<br><br>the rest believes: helping as many people as possible to live a worthy <br>life is good for everybody.<br><br>I think a pd conv in brazil only makes sense, if it is in connection <br>with a knowledge flow and general (financial) flow/support from north to <br>south. it should encourage the local community and their work. like it <br>did in graz and montreal. there should be money from the european <br>community to support the relationship to south american countries.<br><br>marius.<br></blockquote><br><p>&#32;
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