Hey,
Personally, I quite like it. Yes, it is a bit unsettling in the beginning, but I think it's one of those things that you get accustomed to very quickly.Ok, as the first email to the list about it, here are some thoughts for starters :)
- Now connections get grayed out when making new connections. Haven't really gotten used to it, what's everyone else idea on this? Can we make this an optional feature to check/activate somewhere and leave the default as it were?
I think *changing* existing shortcuts is a bad idea. So I think we should leave the shortcuts as they were and use cmd+6 for the new list atom. After all, a list atom is *not* a drop-in replacement for a symbol atom (numbers and spaces are handled differently!)
Related to atoms/list boxes:
- The shortcut for symbol box (cmd+4) is gone, it now load the list box instead, no shortcut is given for symbol and the next shortcut (cmd+5) is for comments as before. Why not have list as shortcut cmd+5 and comments get cmd+6?
I tend to agree. I think Miller just used the same default width for both list atoms and symbol atoms.
- the symbol box by default now is much wider, I always have to make it shorter, who needs that big boxes most the time? can't we make the same as before?
Actually, the problem is really this: when you type a number in symbol box and hit enter, the text just disappears and it outputs an empty symbol. Of course, [float] can't convert empty symbols :-)
- something is funny on symbol boxes, if I type a number in it and sendd it to [float], float does not understand it and cannot convert it anymore to float.
Confirmed! As a side note, we still can't have "#" in atom labels :-(
- also float/symbol/list boxes. If I type '$0-x' as a send or receive name, I get '#0-x' when I reopen the preferences. This used to be something that happened for iemguis and we fixed it, but now these boxes have it.
- if I type "hi, there" in a list box I get an unescaped (and seemingly ilegal) "," symbol.
Generally, list atoms contain FUDI strings and colons, semicolons and dollars have special meanings. You have to escape them explicitly if you want them to part of a symbol.
"foo,bar" -> 3 atoms
"foo\,bar" -> 1 symbol atom
However, you're right that the list atom forgets to bash those special to symbols, so you end up with A_SEMI, A_COMMA, A_DOLLAR and A_DOLLSYM atoms on the patch level - which is bad!
cheers
Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 13:45, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> escreveu:
I think my e-mails aren't making it to pd-announce for some reason.
Anyway, yes, 0.52-0 test 2 is out :)
Miller
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:20:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Test it out. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html
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> now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from Pd-announce for the test
> versions as usual, how come?
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> I have some issues I have to report, by the way.
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> cheers
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