with the level of virtuosity you also want to demand new levels of requirements. it is not about displaying a visualization of the programming flow or readability of code, it is only about efficiency and user interaction. for other situations than performance or user interface, this feature is not necessary, I have to admit. marius.
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
A programming environment should encourage people to program in a way that not only works, but also is clearly legible to people who have never seen that program before. This makes it much easier to reuse and maintain code, and that leads to much less duplicated effort. That means everyone can benefit from the faster progress.
.hc
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:07 AM, marius schebella wrote:
I don't understand people complaining about additional features. you don't have to use it, if you don't want. but for other people it makes sense to layout their interface independently from their code. design is so important for a graphical user interface! I heard this so often "I can't share my patch, because only I know, how to use it". patches without a user interface for the run-mode are not sharable. I am not talking about patches with only an on/off button... pd is very limited in that regards and I really would wish pd would make more improvement into that direction. marius.
Kevin McCoy wrote:
The Pd graph-on-parent makes more sense IMHO because it uses existing Pd mechanisms for encapsulation and encourages patchers to modularize their programs.
100% agreed, that is why I thought "umm... what's so special about this presentation mode?" when I saw that page. To me that should be planned into the program. If your patches are messy for performance, code cleaner, use subpatches, etc, no excuses for that as far as I see. Sends and receives for gui objects have been there since I started.. I guess I wasn't really excited about any of that stuff :) but then again maybe I misunderstand.. km
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